There is a legal difference here. 'Teen studs' refers to porn created using willing adult models (perhaps in their teens or maybe someone who looks young) who provided proof of age and that proof is on file should the FBI ever demand to see it. For the chance encounter in a Thailand toilet, there is not going to be the same record to prove the age of participants. For every teenager I've filmed fucking or getting fucked, I have their proof of age ready to display should the need ever arise.

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Suggeset you view;

Worldwide Ages of Consent

World wide the ave age for m/m sex is 16. What is amazing is the number of US states where it is 16 or (even Texas) - 17.
Also see note 18.
"It is illegal for an American citizen or resident to have sex in another country with someone aged under 16, unless the age difference is less than 4 years, in which case the minimum age is 12. "

The Feds do not control the world - and laws on making porn are different from engaging in consentual sex. I suggest you relocate your domain to a realistic location like Denmark or Sweden (15), Australia, UK or Netherlands(16). Even communist China is 14 along with Colombia, Croatia and Ecador!!

So statistically I think you will find that most teens would not be classified as "underage."

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Believe it or not, in doing this website for 20 years, I've considered many options. I've even paid lawyers to find out the safest place to park our domain. They've made one thing clear: as long as I live in this country -- my home country -- I fall under the laws of this country, and no amount of relocating a server will change that in the eyes of US law. I'll do a lot to keep members happy, but re-locating is not on the list.

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Understood. - but if (hypethetically) I was to visit DC (16) or NY (17) and have consentual sex with a teen- ager of legal age, how could talking about that on this site be illegal?

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Much ado about nothing. The written word is not the same as images. Lolita is still on the shelves of every bookstore in America.

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PS: that said, I do respect the fact that it is Keith's board and that he might not want to be perceived as providing space for chicken hawks to get off.

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-- We've had a previous debate about using the word: 'B*y.', which I'm sure some posters may remember. Goodness me - when I was working in Australia our 'Tea boy.' was a good 60+years old - but everybody called him 'The Tea-boy.' and no-one, least of all himself, batted an eyelid.
-- Most posters who've visited BKK. will be aware of a certain a go-go bar in Soi Naras Thiwat 1., (aka. Soi Anuman.'), that incorporates that word in its name.
- Back then it was suggested that, if only for safety's sake, posters avoid the use of that possibly forbidden word and use the words: 'Young man/men.'; most of us will know what is meant - but the law has been observed.
- So possibly it should be with the words: 'Teen-ager.'.
- Better to be safe than sorry; 'Discretion is the better part of valor.' etc. etc.. --

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Yes Keith is rather caught in the middle. ... but the fact is that the world has moved on and there is increasing acceptance world-wide of a m/m age of consent of 16. Certain church based and right wing conservative groups are trying to imply that there's something magic about 18 ( rather like 50 years ago 21 was the age of majority) but the fact is Keith or any American can travel the world and legally (where permited by local laws) have m/m sex with 16+ - so there should be no problem in discussing or inferring that.

The reference to "age 18+ verified and on file etc" is specific to commercially produced and sold porn, not consentual cruising and sex.

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