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biggles69 10th October 2010 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by icon513 (Post 679601)
Legally, having sex in a bar is exactly the same as having sex in the middle of Silom Road. It's a public place, so the same laws apply -- public lewdness, indecency, morals, you name it.

That's quite logical. But are you aware of any prosecutions?

Last year I was in the back room of Rock Hard bar (sadly closed) in Jomtien when 4 plain clothes cops swooped. Fortunately I was simply having a drink with a loin-clothed boy. They checked all the boys IDs, checked the loo and rummaged through lockers (looking for drugs?) but completely ignored me. After 10 mins of this I called for my bill, paid and left .

icon513 10th October 2010 10:58 PM

I'm aware of prosecutions of foreigners (and Thais) having sex in public -- like on beaches and stuff -- but not in a bar. Anyway, I can't afford to be the first, so I don't indulge.

biggles69 10th October 2010 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by icon513 (Post 679603)
I'm aware of prosecutions of foreigners (and Thais) having sex in public -- like on beaches and stuff -- but not in a bar. Anyway, I can't afford to be the first, so I don't indulge.

Agreed. The Russians made quite a splash (literally) on Pattaya beach with several nude copulations taking place in full public view (too much sun and Wodka !) The cops clearly could not allow this to become the latest "must do " tourist event and wasted no time in fining those concerned. ... however I suspect in a gay bar (where the moral majority are never going to venture) it would be nothing that a BT 1,000 note couldn't fix ... but like you, I would not want to be the first to in that situation.

I wonder if any cruisers have ever used the folding stuff to extracate from a tricky situation?

icon513 10th October 2010 11:41 PM

I'm sure it has and would certainly be possible in some situations. But not all. Especially if press and/or vigilante NGO groups or embassies are involved, or if the police are otherwise under the gun to produce results. That's how things work.

sextile 11th October 2010 07:25 AM

-- Chasing-up another topic I came across the flg. thread:
Going on at NATURE BOY..
- Originating posting for 06 nov 2009.

- It makes for interesting reading; possibly our esteemed Moderator - for whom no-one has an higher regard than I do - would combine both NATURE BOY threads, if only for neatness? :)

icon513 11th October 2010 08:54 AM

I certainly would if I knew how to...

12is12 11th October 2010 12:17 PM

Please help out a newbie
 
"We've all done it - all had our pants below our knees and and a cock in mouth and each hand." - I haven't, and despite your cautionary advice I'd like to try it AMOR, so please help me out.

1) Is this done only in Nature Boys or also in other bars (which)?
2) How much do I pay the boys afterwards? Do I have to buy them drinks first?
3) Will one of them also smoke me, or is that a line not crossed by them in public?
4) Is cumming involved?

Thanks.

biggles69 11th October 2010 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 12is12 (Post 679615)
"We've all done it - all had our pants below our knees and and a cock in mouth and each hand." - I haven't, and despite your cautionary advice I'd like to try it AMOR, so please help me out.

1) Is this done only in Nature Boys or also in other bars (which)?
2) How much do I pay the boys afterwards? Do I have to buy them drinks first?
3) Will one of them also smoke me, or is that a line not crossed by them in public?
4) Is cumming involved?

Thanks.

If you want lots of cock fun Nature Boys is a sure bet, but Super A and Golden Cock (both close by) can also be rewarding.

At N.B. I usually let the boys come to me and when the captain suggests I buy them a drink I say I prefer to tip afterwards.
What actually happens and how far u go will depend on you, the boys and whether there are other customers and how shy / forward you are. Just give it a go !

hcmpp 11th October 2010 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 12is12 (Post 679615)
"We've all done it - all had our pants below our knees and and a cock in mouth and each hand." - I haven't, and despite your cautionary advice I'd like to try it AMOR, so please help me out.

1) Is this done only in Nature Boys or also in other bars (which)?
2) How much do I pay the boys afterwards? Do I have to buy them drinks first?
3) Will one of them also smoke me, or is that a line not crossed by them in public?
4) Is cumming involved?

Thanks.

I have found them more reluctant in Golden Cock to do this - there they have a reasonable room upstairs so you can negotiate with them to take a group upstairs and you may get away with Bht500 each boy.

At Nature Boy it would be better practice that once you have selected the boys you want to have with you that you buy them a drink (but count the drinks that you buy as the captain does tend to add one or two extra to the bill - though I tend to see this as his tip rather than give him anything when I leave). In most bars if a boy sits with you for a bit you would give Bht100, here if they are into kissing and playing I tend to give Bht200, for sucking I tend to give Bht300 and yes they will suck you (usually if you have a group one boy is selected by them to do that). For cumming then it gets expensive as it is the same as offing them - the bar will add Bht300 for each boy that cums and the boys start at asking Bht1,000 for cumming - so then depends on your budget and negotiating skills if you are happy with that or want to negotiate it down. This is also where for a price of a taxi and for short time room you could have them for longer and more comfortably in a hotel room. The boys from this bar are generally not shy when in a group unlike if you select a group from some other bars when they will not do so much infront of their co workers.

If you do have a group and have your trousers down by your ankles just be conscious where your wallet is as in previous threads on Nature Boy has been some suspicion of one or two boys in the past trying to take notes from the wallet.

Xfun 12th October 2010 12:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by biggles69 (Post 679605)
Agreed. The Russians made quite a splash (literally) on Pattaya beach with several nude copulations taking place in full public view (too much sun and Wodka !) The cops clearly could not allow this to become the latest "must do " tourist event and wasted no time in fining those concerned. ... however I suspect in a gay bar (where the moral majority are never going to venture) it would be nothing that a BT 1,000 note couldn't fix ... but like you, I would not want to be the first to in that situation.

I wonder if any cruisers have ever used the folding stuff to extracate from a tricky situation?

Not sure that 1,000Baht only would suffice in all situations / with all the BIB. Plenty would take advantage of the 'situation' and squeeze a lot lot more than 1,000.

I'm sure there are other long-timer members who can recall many such stories where hundreds of thousands were extorted.

A twist to this is a situation a gay farang work colleague got himself into about 15 years ago. He picked up a cop at Sanam Luang, took the guy to his apartment, then the cop started demanding lots of cash and frequently. Even established when the farang was paid and waited outside of the farangs place of employment on pay day.

Many times the cop took his own friends to restaurants / karaoke bats etc., ran up large bills then would call the farang, often at 3 o'clock in the morning, and demand the frarang come, now, and pay the bill, usually with a threat involved.

Also would ask the men in his drinking party if they wanted a farang to suck their cocks, and of this discussion in front of the women in the party. (The farang concerned spoke very advanced Thai and understood every word.)

The farang concerned was quite frightened of the guy. Eventually he changed jobs (lucky he was able to), changed apartments etc., and was careful to not leave any trail.

The 'harrassment' from the cop did then stop, but I guess for about 8 months or so the farang went thru hell.

biggles69 12th October 2010 06:12 AM

Very scary story from Xfun! However today I wonder how the situation would play out. Taking a consenting adult back to your room is hardly a crime, and I assume the cop produced his ID before any hanky pancky - so what was he going to be charged with? I think nowadays cops have to think more carefully before trying blackmail and extortion, both far more serious crimes than consentual gay sex.

12is12 12th October 2010 11:55 AM

thanks, and...
 
Thanks for the detailed answers on cocks-in-public at the NB.

With your permission, a question perhaps on the other side of the spectrum:
I have ten hours (12:00-22:00) to spend waiting for a connect-flight. I'm looking for an 'upscale' massage-bar with rentboys (preferrably men not twinks), where I can have a session, spend some leisure time (show? TV? reading?), another session and a good shower.

I'd be grateful for any guidance/recommendations.

icon513 12th October 2010 08:31 PM

Hero in Sukhimvit 11, without a doubt.
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wantasian 13th October 2010 07:25 AM

I think the story about the cop extorting money from the guy for 8 months is a bunch of b.s. After the cop left on the first visit, I don't see what would make the farang keep paying. Unless the cop was threatening to go to where the farang worked, and arrest him at work. I certainly would have called the bluff very early.

wantasian 13th October 2010 07:32 AM

I was in Farose 2 sauna over 2 years ago, and there was a Thai in his late-20's walking around with an underage teen who was very good-looking (apparently his friend or little brother). The older guy tried to get me to go with his teen friend for money. I thought it was a set-up and declined. It was very tempting, though. I really think any situation like that is a set-up (anything where a tout tries to fix a farang up with an underage guy). I don't even know how the younger guy was allowed into the place.


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