I can't recall host bars being discussed here.Would this be because CFS types don't use them?I really wonder why anyone would,considering go-go bars and saunas allow you to see the body beforehand and discussion can be kept to a minimum.Yet these venues continue to survive, even advertising in English, though bi-lingual skills among farang and Thai would mean a small market.On my first Bkk visit I passed Inter-Mustache ,which still exists, and it seemed rather empty as far as customers went.

Any insights into these places ? Dreaded Ned lists a handful so business-wise they must do o.k.

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Tried to find Turning Point a few weeks ago - without success. 2 weeks later walked into a bar to ask if they knew where Turning Point is, and it turned out to be this one. No sign outside and I assume it has changed its name. At around 10:30 there were 3 disinterested boys. We walked out without ordering a drink.

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Turning point is now called "Morning Bar" now. It is not a very exciting place at the moment, with very little talent. Hardly worth a visit.

Studio 982 is still good.

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"I can't recall host bars being discussed here."

Well, kinda ... most if not all of the places in Saphan Khwai are host bars. I am not too fond of them but the mamasan I know at Future Boys swears by them. He says that the sex is better because they are less "professional". His technique is to get them as drunk as possible ..

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The sex is better because most of the punters are Thai -- and Thais don't put up with any shit. The patrons of these places are also usually regulars, not tourists -- so they are looking more towards repeat trade.

Only boys who perform will last at this kind of place, while dead fish can carry on in Soi Twilight for years and years and never lose their jobs.

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Last time I offed a boy from Turning Point (about 2 years ago) they charged me 1,200 baht off fee! When I expressed surprise they informed this already included tip for boy. I think I think gave him an extra 200 bht (for taxi) as he was quite a good lay! Went back last year and very dissappointing selection of boys, and still high fee expected. I declined.

"Charming" in Sapin Kwai can have some very handsome young college boys who who look very bored, but spring to life as soon as invited to join you for a drink and a chat. Recommended if you'd like to meet a boy who ins't from Isaan!

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