Oh. So customers may not be cheap charlies after all, it depends on their home culture?

Yes- tipping is not in Japanese culture. You never tip taxi drivers, restaurants etc in Japan - and on the couple of occasions I offed a boy from a host bar in Tokyo's Shinjuku -san chome, and Osaka's gay area (where they do exist - but all in street clothes) I'm pretty sure I only paid the "house" charge and no tip was expected.

Does anyone know if Apsara has opened again?

Agree, I've had 'on the premises' and 'takeout' experiences in Japan, offered extra tips to the boys but all quite surprised and all politely declined to take the tip. One young uni student told me he was worried the master would be angry if he knew the boy had accepted an extra tip.
Overall, tipping is very rare in japan, as biggles mentioned.

'SENSO.' massage ...
 

-- Herebelow is a shortened version of a recent SGPean's visit to SENSO* -

- 60mins. massage costs 999.Bh. PLUS 1,200.Bh. MINIMUM TIP.;
- 90mins. massage for 1,200.Bh. PLUS 1,600. TIP.;

-- He opted for a 60mins. massage, (type not specified.); he wrote: 'Massage lasted but 15mins. for back and 10mins. for front.', before the fun part: 'Not as good.' he added. He was left to shower alone afterwards. Verdict: '1 word DISAPPOINTING.'.

-- Source: > Trevvy < - TRAVELLERS' LODGE - BANGKOK.

-- *Addr.: 5/8., Soi Sala daeng, Bang rak;
- BTS./MRT.: Sala daeng, (S2.)/Silom;
- Tel.: (02)-636 3535.;
- Hrs.: Daily 14.-23.oo.hrs..

Montara massage & spa. ...
 

-- Another & new massage-parlor & SPA. has OPENED on Silom soi 6. -

MONTARA MASSAGE & SPA.,
Addr.: 128/9, Silom 6.,
Bang rak, BANGKOK, 10500.;
Tel.: (02)-634 2430.;
Cell: (087)-918 0334.;
Menu, for 60'., 90'. and 120mins., (sample prices),:
1.- Thai Trad. Msg.: 200., 300. & 400.Bh.;
2.- Aroma oil Msg.: 550., 760. & 1,000.Bh.;
TIPS. at customers' discretion;
-- This parlor is for ladies & gents. and has masseurs & masseuses - the staff, from what I've seen, being neatly uniformed in tee shirts over trousers.
-- The receptionist with whom I spoke admitted that he spoke but little English; from the signage outside, and its loc'n., I'd expect it to appeal more to Japanese, and possibly, to Chinese customers.


-- E&OE. as I've not availed of its services. -- :)

Last night Mr Spoonfed & I had a trip to Prime. It being frequently busy in the past few months, we took the liberty if calling in advance to book our oil massages, but clearly the low season cliff has been passed; only 1 person getting a foot massage when we arrived, and a few boys lounging around outside.

No pick of boys but that was ok, being under the close watch of the other half, I need to be on my best behaviour. A chunky guy escorted me to my room at the very top of the house.

The thing that struck me from the moment I arrived at the massage room was just how incredibly shabby the place is looking; clearly they had a very good high season but it has taken its toll on the building. The toilet/shower room was particularly bad - the shower head and soap dish hanging off the wall, as was the towel rail, and the toilet flush was also broken.

That said, the massage was very good and lasted the full hour, a bargain at only 400 baht. No extras were offered nor requested.

Khet thung khru ...
 

-- A web-acquaintance from another web-site has asked me for any info. on Massage Parlors and suchlike in KHET THUNG KHRU, wch. is across the river, (WEST bank.), to the SSW. of Cent'l. BKK., and can be accessed via the Kanchanaphisek Bridge; the Outer Ring Rd., Southern, running East to West bisects the khet roughly in half.
-- :)

wow, we have a house in Thung Kru (15 yrs) and I have never heard the area mentioned on any site. Sometimes go to Male Box near Rama 2 Central. Have local mums massage everywhere but nothing gay, as far as I have seen. Having said that, with KMUTT in Paracha-uthit Rd there must be an opening for action.

Khet thung khru ...
 

-- Khun Greg.,

- Thanks for yr. reply.
- Looking-at my copy of BANGKOK City Atlas - ISBN.: 9-789749-440780., I see that KMUTT. is towards the Northern boundary of KHET THUNG KHRU - possibly a few hundred yards short of stepping into KHET RAT BURANA.
- Pracha Uthit rd. is indeed quite a long rd. going in a SSE. dir'n. from what is shewn as a new extn. to Nakhon Khuean rd. and thence into Amphoe Phra Samut Chedi, some 10M. in length as a guestimate.

some updates on other and new shops:
NEW are a place in sukhumvit 62=beyond Onnut, currently heavily advertising on Thaimassageboy-even with shuttle bus to nearest BTS!
New was also a place in sukhumvit 24-in the short dogleg opposite Fourwings HTL-pretty close to the new Albury, but thier ads have already disappeared.
The former MAR in Sukh 57-across Ekamai is out of this chain and now names itself as Club 57. i had a report on them few month ago.
Above there was some Q about Tung Kru- i guess shortest by and also ofering msg is the sauna in the Central-circle along RamIII. Long, long time ago there was Bandung-opposite the new HQ of Kasikornbank, but it moved out of town.

Tawan massage ...
 

-- ' TAWAN MASSAGE, a luxurious SPA. for men by male masseurs on Soi Tarntawan is now offering a special promo. for all Bangkok Desire's readers. Just shewing this Bangkok Desire. you can get a promo. of 'Come three pay only two.' for any massage courses.'.
- Tel.: (02)-634 5833 for any info..

-- Source: Freebie & monthly Bangkok Desire. - II/25..

First correction on my post of july:
The name of the already closed palce in Sukhvit 24 was Full Moon.
The renamed former MARS is actually Club M-61, as its soi 61, across from Ekamai.
More new shops:
advertising on TMB-usually that means good quality:
HI-CLUB in Nonthburi, off RattanaTibet, soi 17. Oil msg for 60/90 mins is 4/500 THB. This is pretty close to I-Spa and also 88.
G-MAN opened a month or so ago-then in Bangkapi, but has moved to Lard Prao 101-yaek 39, thus quite far into the soi. There is a red pickup public songhthaew there. In same soi is long-standing Men 101. G- now offers all-in for just 1200 THB, thus tip incl.
IN Bangkapi itself is an advertiser in MAX mag: Chantr DAra, in soi Happyland 2, nr. 192, oil msg for 1-2 hrs is 300/550. Pix show the usual Thai style all-open plan, I guess its an all_Thai place with rooms maybe upstairs.
K-male is also still there-see other thread.
More to follow. Enough to go further exploring.

Had 2 hours free in BKK yesterday before a meeting at Le Meridien, Suriwong, so at 4 pm nipped into Soi Twighlight and into the first massage on the right (I think Bangkok massage- before Bonnies).

Upstairs a few boys present- asked for Nuad Thai (traditional massage) and given a choice of 3 guys. I asked for a gay one, and it turned out to be the cutie who had caught my eye. 22 y.o. from Chiang Mai.

Showered together (where he paid special attention to all my nooks and crannies !) then into small room/cubicle with traditional floor mattress. He suggest an oil massage would be better! Spent the first 30 mins enjoying a competent, firm, deep tissue massage, and next 30 minutes enjoyable body to body , tongue kissing and long mutual oral and digital session, climaxing with multiple cum shots, including all over my face (managed to get one right inside my ear.)..Total cost 500 for massage 1,000 tip - total satisfaction and much cheaper than going to one of the bars there . (say 2 beers = 700, off fee 400, short time room 400, tip 1,500 = 3,000) so half the price and great sex :) .... and I still made my 6 pm appointment nearby.

good to see that even in the places there good fu can be had.....
Further to my listings: barely had I written this, new changes were there:
G-man has moved again and is now in Lard Prao 112.
Newly adverstsing on TMB are:
Waterloo, a former karaOK bar in the Sapan kwai alley. Just happened to be there-and it was still being worked on and not yet open.
Sawasdee is the new name for Sawasdee krap-in that strangely located parking lot ground level of the giant flats north of Ram IV-opposite Suan Plu.
J-club in decho has closed-predictably, there is now a bekpekkers hostel in the same house- Full Blast.
New places advertsising on thai sites like tmmsociety or mangosociety:
Makhanwan in Sukhumvit 103, corner of 101/2, just before BangNa.
Ekanekspa in Ratchda soi 7. 350/500 THB for 1/1,5 hr oil.
Rung Ruengspa in BOSS mansion off Ram IOV-likely same spot as reported on here with other name, 600 Bt/hr.
Korn Relax, in a soi far away off Narathiwat- a hefty 950 Bt/1,5 hr.
City Retreat Plus in RCA/block F.
Tewakorn in Lard Prao soi 130, yaek 8
MAN69 in a homespa in utter farway Nonthburi-beyond the Big King /Bang Yai crossing, where the new skytrain extension is under full swing-for those who want to visit outer suburban BKK.