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Old 5th January 2013, 08:26 PM
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Eventually he got bashed just up the road from the Malaysia hotel and was taken to a Bangkok hospital ICU unit. They quickly contacted his embassy who got relatives at home to pay his ICU bill and get his air ticket changed to get him home quickly (he had totally depleted his funds in gay 'entertainment').

He died a couple of days after returning home to Utah.

Ain't easy being sleazy!
What a sad story. Tips only 200 baht for the whole night ? Didn't the boy bash the guy ?

I think a lot of forummers here think that all forummers here are European/Americans. You must understand that European/Americans have very strong currency so 2000 baht to 5000 baht is chicken feed to them as it is around 100 USD or so. Morever, their median monthly salary is high.

However, we asians who have much lower exchange rate feel the pinch of paying 2000 baht just for half an hour.

Even the median daily salary rate in Thailand is only 40-50 baht (Correct me if I am wrong). So 2000 baht is about 50 times the daily rate.

The rich farang do spoil the market. (and maybe japs)
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Old 5th January 2013, 11:13 PM
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What a sad story. Tips only 200 baht for the whole night ? Didn't the boy bash the guy ?

I think a lot of forummers here think that all forummers here are European/Americans. You must understand that European/Americans have very strong currency so 2000 baht to 5000 baht is chicken feed to them as it is around 100 USD or so. Morever, their median monthly salary is high.

However, we asians who have much lower exchange rate feel the pinch of paying 2000 baht just for half an hour.

Even the median daily salary rate in Thailand is only 40-50 baht (Correct me if I am wrong). So 2000 baht is about 50 times the daily rate.

The rich farang do spoil the market. (and maybe japs)
The daily minimum wage is now 300 baht. Not sure why that's important, though, as sex work is not minimum wage work anywhere in the world.

I also think it's ridiculous to blame farangs for driving prices up, when it's the Asians (Japanese, in particular) who are best known for tipping big and demanding little in return.

If you want cheap sex, there's always Sanam Luang.
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Old 6th January 2013, 06:30 AM
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The daily minimum wage is now 300 baht. Not sure why that's important, though, as sex work is not minimum wage work anywhere in the world.
I am talking about the MEDIAN (not minimum) daily wages that the average Thai guy gets. I think it should be around 500 baht per day.
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Old 6th January 2013, 07:02 AM
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I am talking about the MEDIAN (not minimum) daily wages that the average Thai guy gets. I think it should be around 500 baht per day.
Which, again, has no bearing on the price of sexual services. Especially when you are talking about a specialist fetish item (muscle men) which are a limited-availability commodity.
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Old 7th January 2013, 07:46 AM
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I am talking about the MEDIAN (not minimum) daily wages that the average Thai guy gets. I think it should be around 500 baht per day.
Nope, in countries like Thailand, the salary of most people is actually pretty close to the minimum salary. At least outside of Bangkok and some holiday resorts.

Not that it has anything to do with the rate sex workers charge, especially those targeting tourists, of course.
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Old 7th January 2013, 08:43 PM
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Nope, in countries like Thailand, the salary of most people is actually pretty close to the minimum salary. At least outside of Bangkok and some holiday resorts.

Not that it has anything to do with the rate sex workers charge, especially those targeting tourists, of course.

You mean the median daily rate is even lower than 500 baht ?

On the contrary, it has some relationship with the sex rate. It is called opportunity cost, they cannot earn higher if they demand exorbitant rate much higher than most of what their fellow countrymen gets.

The median daily rate determines food cost, transport cost etc. of a country.

So it is the rich Europeans/American/Japanese who are driving sex prices up in Thailand.

These workers DON'T work in european/american countries, they work in Thailand where the customers can be local Thai or from neighbouring asian countries with comparable living standard.

Let me give you an analogy...

How would you feel if foreigners from a richer country eg. japanese buy up all the properties in a certain European country, driving prices up and left all the locals without a home to live ?

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Old 7th January 2013, 10:09 PM
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You mean the median daily rate is even lower than 500 baht ?
Yes. Thailand's income inequality is significant, just have a look at the Gini coefficient. Most members of the Thai workforce earn a wage that is close to the minimum wage, while few top earners get a huge chunk of the overall wages paid.

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On the contrary, it has some relationship with the sex rate.
Sure, there's a relationship: You'd expect sex workers in, let's say, the U.S. to demand more than in Thailand, because the overall price level is higher there. That's obviously the case.

But, in both countries, sex workers ask way more than the minimum (or even median) wage. So, for example, saying that a Tawan guy should be happy with 1,000 baht per night because the daily median rate is below 500 baht doesn't make any sense.
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Old 8th January 2013, 05:20 AM
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But, in both countries, sex workers ask way more than the minimum (or even median) wage. So, for example, saying that a Tawan guy should be happy with 1,000 baht per night because the daily median rate is below 500 baht doesn't make any sense.

If the median rate is say 400 baht per day. Giving a 1000 baht per hour is already quite reasonable. That would make it 8000 baht per day which is 20 times the median rate.

How much does a sex worker in USA get when compare with their median rate ? Is it 200 USD per hour ? What is their median salary ? 100 USD per day ? That is only 16 times the median rate. assuming 8 hours work per day.

So the prices that Thai people pay for their sex workers is exorbitant. In Tawan, that would be 2000 baht for half an hour or 4000 baht for one hour.

Anyone living in the USA who can confirm the sex rates and median daily wages above ?
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Old 6th January 2013, 12:16 AM
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What a sad story. Tips only 200 baht for the whole night ? Didn't the boy bash the guy ?

I think a lot of forummers here think that all forummers here are European/Americans. You must understand that European/Americans have very strong currency so 2000 baht to 5000 baht is chicken feed to them as it is around 100 USD or so. Morever, their median monthly salary is high.

However, we asians who have much lower exchange rate feel the pinch of paying 2000 baht just for half an hour.

Even the median daily salary rate in Thailand is only 40-50 baht (Correct me if I am wrong). So 2000 baht is about 50 times the daily rate.

The rich farang do spoil the market. (and maybe japs)
This incident is a long time ago, from my memory the working boy who had been cheated (paid 200Baht) gathered some other freelancers in the Malaysia hotel lobby, followed the farang a couple of hundred metres or something similar and they bashed him.
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Old 6th January 2013, 12:23 AM
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Old 6th January 2013, 02:56 AM
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What a sad story. Tips only 200 baht for the whole night ? Didn't the boy bash the guy ?

I think a lot of forummers here think that all forummers here are European/Americans. You must understand that European/Americans have very strong currency so 2000 baht to 5000 baht is chicken feed to them as it is around 100 USD or so. Morever, their median monthly salary is high.

However, we asians who have much lower exchange rate feel the pinch of paying 2000 baht just for half an hour.

Even the median daily salary rate in Thailand is only 40-50 baht (Correct me if I am wrong). So 2000 baht is about 50 times the daily rate.

The rich farang do spoil the market. (and maybe japs)
With respect to ICON's comment I'll adjust my last line above as follows:


'The rich farang who overtip, sometimes ridiculously high tips, and the Japanese do spoil the market'. (Regarding the Japanese, ask around about the very high tips handed out in Soi Thaniya from Japanese customers.)
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