Hi, I tried to post on Sunday, but perhaps it got lost, so I'm tying again.

Since discovering Tawan last year, I thought I was in heaven! I love macho Thai guys, and the bodybuilders there were eye candy to me. I really liked a few handfuls who appeal to me. However, when I overcame my shyness, my first and second off in consecutive nights were not very successful as the boys didn't really want to do more than a handjob.

I'm really hoping to try again, and I would like to off a boy who could french-kiss if the chemistry is right, and do more than mutual hand-jobs.

Can someone email or PM me some of your experience with the guys and point out their #'s please. I'd really like to try again when I am back in BKK in October.

Thanks very very much in advance.

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Your experiences mirror mine exactly.

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Better go to Hero, many hunky guys there and they do much more but limited to 1 hr for a general massage.

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Between 1994 - 1998, I had ONE good experience. I have never been back there since.

Silly of me, I know. Anyone else in his right mind or less besotted with muscled guys would have stopped going much earlier...but hope sprang eternal (nearly), I guess.

I've had much better luck with the hunky guys from other bars, most notably Jupiter.

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Thanks for the advice...

But alas, I'm cursed with this liking for masculine macho guys - not that those in hero are not macho, but the ones in Tawan really attract me. Yes it means that most of them there are straight. But, surely there are some who are more "versatile" and perhaps even slightly gay on the inside?

Is it allowed in this forum to post which boys in Tawan may be more "open" to a same sex relationship? I was really attracted to #8, #11 and #46 (I think) or #48. But, I wasn't lucky in my 2 offs.

I tried to talk to them softly, and even gave them nice massages. Or is it because they don't know me yet? Or I'm not doing something right?

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Don't take it personally. The Tawan guys, whether gay, straight, or bi, are notorious for not performing well for anyone except pure muscle worshipers who require little reciprocation.

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Sigh...none taken. I guess this is as good as it gets?

So if I were to go to Tawan next time again, which boy should I try to off? My gaydar was quite sure one of two are a bit gay... I saw some horsing on stage and they really look like possibilities (not the 3 I mentioned previously).

Or, is money is issue? How much would (reasonably) pay for say french-kissing and some further probing?

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It's not a matter of money. They mostly are just unwilling and uninterested. Sorry I can't be more encouraging, but Tawan is a big waste of space for me.

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Ok, so just eye candy...

Or, in other words... like fake Japanese food art candy.

Nice to see, but not to eat? Ha Ha...

Someone emailed me, and he said that actually in the past some of the boys, when they know you a bit, they get more "adventurous". But not without parting with more THB.

Hmmm... Can some kind souls out there please email or PM me a number to try?

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Hi,

I'm like you, very attracted by tawan men. It is very difficult to find such macho men in other bars. Last time I went to Bangkok I met 2 guys : they were straights, we did not kiss but one of them f*** me. I do not know if he is still working, I recently found his photos in http://www.thaibody.com/athletes/view.html?pid=4 under the name Meykin.

I will be in Bangkok in october and also appreciate your comments.

Thanks

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Thanks for the link. OMG, Some of those guys work in Tawan. I've got to go to one of those competitions these days.

This guy is an absolute dream... Does he work at Tawan too? I didn't see Meykin or this Jimmy guy the last time I was there.

http://www.thaibody.com/file/2z822-a1cce7f9-preview.jpg
http://www.thaibody.com/file/2z823-5fa89ef8-preview.jpg
Drool...

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Well... I just wanted to share my experience about this guy #11. It was better than sex in some ways...

Just went back to Tawan over the weekend, after weeks of fantasizing about the musclemen there.

It was raining slightly when I arrive, but I quickly settled down with a beer and looked around. I saw #11 again, whom I had offed just once before. Back then I was quite disappointed with the outcome (being new to Tawan and this off-ing thing) as he was quiet most of the time back then, and didn't want to do much. So, I just looked around the room admiring the other boys, but then, I had a pleasant surprised when he smiled at me as he walked down from the stage. Plucking my courage, and with my expectations lowered from my first time, I said hi to him and asked him to sit and talk.

He's actually gained more mass (not fat, coz he told me he's bulking up for Dec competition) which actually I like more, as he looked like those Japanese stocky musclemen. Second time round, he seemed more at ease (actually, so was I! but he didn't know that), and we just had a casual but very good banter. He was asking the usual questions about where I was staying, when I arrived, etc., and we just talked. He actually laughed good humouredly when I said I was hungry and hoping to find good fried noodles (pud thai). We then talked about thai food. Somehow the chemistry was good this time round. So, when I just mentioned if he was on diet, and he said no, then I asked where to find the noodles, and he said just next to Montien hotel, then I said why don't you join me, and he said yes, and before I knew it, we were happily eating pud thai, fried chilli basil beef rice and fried oysters at the hawker stalls there. I didn't even see the usual show at Tawan. Just 150 Baht including drinks, and it was quite delicious for my standard.

So far so good. After supper, the rain was drizzling again and I was torn between asking him back to my room or just tipping him and ending off the so-far-so-good evening on a nice note. Well, I couldn't keep myself from lusting him, so at the risk of spoiling a nice evening with good local hawker food and nice conversation, I decided to bring him back to the room.

So, back in the room, #11 showered (gave me a chance to oogle further), and asked if he could give me a massage. I was surprised he took more initiative this time, as the last time, he hardly even smiled which made his already macho face look stern. So, I just laid there and he gave a strong and decent back massage. Nothing sexy there... But when I rolled over I just started talking again, and something amazing happened. (Okay, for those who are only after steamy sex, you will be disappointed, but if you want to find good company read on...) We started talking again about each other, and I even lay on his huge thunder thighs and looked up his face. It rained heavily outside by now, and it just felt very cozy and intimate for me snuggling up to his huge and warm body (I'm surprised his body is always warm even in the aircon)

Found out more about him... Apparent he is not born gay (not a surprise after reading the forums), but he said he doesn't mind gays, and he prefers to make me feel good and give me an orgasm instead. He also said he liked talking to me. I told him that I was disappointed from my first off with him, and he actually said sorry and look apologetic. He explained he doesn't really like to french kiss and doesn't like to be touched in the anal area, as it doesn't give him a high (even with a woman). He was honest and it just made me feel much better and more comfortable with him.

By then, it was quite late already (almost 12AM), and I was thinking about sending him off with a 1500THB tip, when he suddenly asked if he could make me cum as we were talking. Of course, I said yes (ha ha..) He then surprised me by slowly kissing and licking my chest, nipples, and stomach and thighs up and down, taking his time, as I laid on his thighs still. He was actually quite good with his tongue, but we didn't kiss as he said he didn't like to. But I got more and more turned on, as I watched his eyes look at me from time to time, and he really seemed genuinely wanting to make me happy and it excited me. He used his other 2 hands to stroke my legs, and inner thighs, and proceeded to jack me off while licking my nipples when I got really hard. After a while, I came in his huge rough hands, and I noticed him looking intently at my face as I was reaching a climax. When I finished, he went into the toilet to get tissue to gently wipe me off.

All in all, I was satisfied and this time I had a good time. It didn't feel transactional, and I had fun and full at the waist and also six inches below the waist as well. I tipped him 2000 THB, and he didn't ask for more. I actually kinda missed him when I closed the door behind him as he gave me a smile and said goodnight. I glanced at the time and it was 1AM - Wow! Slept like a baby that night. Not exactly full of passionate sex, but it was still good. Is this as good as it gets from Tawan Bar? I don't mind experimenting a few more times to see if they "open" up more when I get to know them...

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I don't often off from Tawan, but when I do, I would let them take the initiative, after indicating my general preferences. Like what you did, if you understand their personal limits, and they sense that you respect their personal limits, then they are much more relaxed.

The worst thing that can happen is if we project onto them our own imagination of what they are. They sense it and they feel a little out of sorts, always on guard against being asked to do what they don't want to do. One has to recognise that straight boys are always a little insecure around gay clients, however long they have been in the trade.

I would say your experience accords with mine. Good communication begets good sex.

Unfortunately, a lot of people have a fantasy of f**king muscle boys, and think that the Tawan boys are available for that. Generally speaking, they aren't.

However, it also needs to be said that like every bar, Tawan too has its share of useless duds. No amount of communication gets any better effort from those boys.

So count yourself lucky too.

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Thanks, sloot. Yes, I think you summed it up very well.

Despite my lengthy post earlier, I didn't mention what happened on my following visit the next night.

So, I went back to Tawan (I decided one "good" run deserves another, but I didn't want to push my luck either) after dinner the following night, with the intention to chat with #11 again, but only catch the 10:30PM show before calling it a night.

So, when I entered the door, the usual happened: ordered a beer, and sat down at a strategic location to look at the athletes. #11 saw me and smiled at me again, and came by to shake my hand and say hello when his turn on the stage expired. Naturally, I asked him to sit next to me and we chatted. Again, we had good chemistry. Its another rainy day, I sat close to him, and he let me place my palm on his huge thighs. After chatting a while, I commented to him that I kinda like #8 (who was the lead actor in a sexy dance later, in leather and chains - no sex) had nice broad shoulders and big calves. Before I could stop him, #11 motioned #8 to sit next to me on the other side (okay, they're friends). What gives?

So, then I had #11 on the left and #8 on the right. I couldn't believe my luck (2 studs so close). Apparently, they're strangely okay with that, though it seems they would be competing for my "off". Strange, but wonderful things happen here. #8 had a slightly better command of English, and relatively more friendly at first impression. After a while, the topic of conversation went to if I would off them or both. I replied matter-of-factly that I just wanted to watch the show and go back to rest as I was departing early the next day. Both of them did sort of try to coax me into it, and asked why not? It felt really nice - 2 studs chasing me at the same time... After a while, they sort of realised I wasn't going to change my mind, and was slightly disappointed but yet okay with it. #8 then started massaging my thighs and said, maybe next time. He did mention that he was a top, and doesn't mind being smoked, as long as it was safe sex. That's a plus in my books. My gaydar did sense that he had some slightly softer mannerisms than #8 in the way he leaned his head on my shoulders (but in no way effeminate) and put on thigh on top of mine. I took a mental note next time to off him. Like #11, #8 just my type - macho, but accepting.

Anyway, then #8 went upstairs to prepare the show. #11 said he usually did the opening muscleshow, but as he was gaining mass before dieting in November, he is not in form for showing that night. I just sat there, next to him, remember how warm he was the previous night. I remembered feeling contented and lucky. On stage, #8 did quite a nice dance, with 4 guys surrounding him, as he sat on stage wearing nothing with chains and a leather mask, and leather belt on the ankles and wrist (as did the others). He spotted a very nice hardon (read: 7-8 inches). I made another mental note to off him next time. The other 4 boys, paired off and danced around the stage and taking turns to suck each other's dicks off. But #8 just danced, acting indifferent, and rejecting their advances when the pairs went near him. I sorta felt bad that I rejected him earlier (even though I know its a show). Its quite a turnon for me.

After the dancing show, there was a parade of studs (not so muscled but some were bodybuilders) either stark naked, or in kinky get-ups (like a huge bell tied to a well-sized well-veined tool of one of the chaps in the fucking show). (Apparently, its called the big-cock show) Duh! To the beat of modelling music even. I got some transvestites show the previous times I went there. Again, strange and good things happen here. Ha Ha...

Anyway, #8 came back after he finished and continued talking to me (#11 went to drink/eat something upstairs) before #11 joined me again. Around midnight, I decide to call it a night and tipped them both 200THB and left. They appreciated it, and #11 gave me a slight wink to come back soon.

All in all, it just felt nice and I was happy. I know its probably not what others may go for, but like sloot, I guess you need to "go with the flow" and enjoy what you have and mutual respect.

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I think you figured it out later: they wanted you to off them both. Then, they each would have had to do only half a job at getting you off, while each getting full tips. Score!

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