i don't want to speak for keith, but in my experience, conversation just sucks the "atmosphere" out of the place. for some reason, it makes the rest of us feel awkward and suspect we're being evaluated and mocked. there are guys who apparently only come to "visit" and never drop a token. they're the ones who really irritate me. it is a business, after all. you must be the exception who covers all the bases. but i still don't like the talkers.