LOL..You've ignored every point that's been made to you, you've self-deleted, you've had the help of the moderator in editing the discourse here. You answer nothing. You just, Newtlike, stay in the same groove of accusation.

And now you're asking me to argue about an assertion whose contex is irrelevant except in your own revised narratizing. (Praise god for the friendship of the moderator and the capacity to delete. Peraise, Jesus.) Exactly what was the blackmail of Andrew Sullivan? Are you talking about the claim of the Instant Message? That's stupid, according to your own telling of the facts. If Andrew had already "confessed" his barebacking and promiscuity, then what would such a threat mean? Maybe you know something else? Blackmail? Really! Intimidation? By reporting the same kind of facts he reports about Clinton and Jackson in exactly the same way? Wanna get specific or do you just wanna rant like a freeper?

So, duh, yes, I disapprove of blackmail and intimidation to silence people, Stunnedinthehead. That's not the issue, because it's not what happened in Sullivan's case and that is why I say I don't need to argue your thesis, sweetie pie.

Real simple,Don't lecture folks about their sex lives, tell them they need to get married and be monogamous or at the least feel guilty for being trashy. Don't, as you're doing so, put pictures of your butt up in a public space and advertise for the most controversial type of sex an HIV-positive man can engage in. If you're going to do that, be upfront about it, stop lecturing the rest of us and acting as if AIDS has diminished. Retract your past. (Too bad Andrew can't hit a delete key the way you do.)

It's no different for Mike Bowers: Don't lecture gay people about their illicit relationships, don't fire lesbians because their sexual practices break the law, don't take us to the supreme court to uphold sodomy laws while you conduct an illegal extramarital affair. Don't do that and not expect to be exposed. Do you think Jimmy Swaggart and Jim Bakker should not have been called to account?

What is complicated about this,The only thing different is that you like Sullivan's ideas. A huge number of us are sick of being preached to by him. His philosophy has destroyed him and nothing more.

So don't turn it into a conspiracy, That's soooooooo 1950s. So McCarthyesque.

[ June 01, 2001: Message edited by: Horndogg ]