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Old 12th May 2004, 02:53 PM
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First, I think it's very important to point out that Dr. Edell was NOT discussing any sort of recreational or illegal drug. His radio show commentary was directed at a NEW form of prescription medication for the treatment of erectile dysfunction. Nasally administered medications are nothing new -- certain vaccines are given this way and other drugs can be taken nasally instead of orally. My dog's recent kennel cough vaccine was nasally administered, and I'm fairly certain I saw flu vaccines being administered this way on TV last winter, just to give a couple examples.

I'm no fan of cocaine or meth or whatever it is the kids are snorting these days. I tried that shit was I was about 18, felt it was boring and a huge waste of money, even at that young age. I never cared to try it again. I'm not entirely sure, and I know guys snort coke and make claims to fucking all night long, but I also know that some men put a few grains INTO their urethra to numb the penis. I also know that this is not a wise idea and that excessive coke use can lead to temporary impotence, having the opposite of the intended effect (it can also lead to permanent stupidity, but that's another story).

Dr. Danny -- I checked out Dean Edell's website, but as you may or may not know, it's HUGE and finding stuff there can be time-consuming at best. I did run across a video webcast discussing the topic of ED, and only at the very end did Dr. Edell mention what he discussed on yesterday's broadcast. He said the "next generation" of ED drugs will be utilized to work within the brain instead of hard-wired to the genitals. He never mentioned vomiting, and to be honest, I can't imagine any new ED drugs in the works where vomiting would be a side effect. Like you said, this would be even more distressing to one's date than even ED might be! Anyway, I guess we'll find out more as time goes by.

If this new med is indeed the real deal, and it can be used by men taking nitrate drugs for other conditions, that would certainly open up a big market and be beneficial for a lot of ED patients who can't use what's currently available. Incidentally, a lot of guys don't know or don't care, but Norvir and Crixivan contraindicate the use of Viagra, etc. HIV+ patients taking these drugs would have something new to try. And let's not get into all the stuff about spreading the disease -- I agree with that aspect of it, but there ARE indeed HIV patients with partners who deserve sexual pleasure.

Here's something interesting from Dr. Edell's site, which gives a good perspective on the three drugs and also correlates with what Danny has said here. So many guys ask which one is best for what circumstance. A survey was conducted of ED patients and the results said that 88% chose Cialis for DURATION, 89% chose Levitra for HARDNESS and EASE, and 60% chose Viagra for FEWER SIDE EFFECTS. (We don't need a total of 100% here, this is the opinion of men who have tried them all and put each into a different category.)

I personally wonder if any of these would be beneficial to me. Not that I have problems -- when I'm sexually turned on, I can obviously mess around for hours at a time. But that's the key here -- these drugs don't work without sexual stimulation. So that's what makes me wonder... Any time I DO have a problem staying hard, it's because I am bored, because a guy can't or won't do anything I like, or simply because I am not attracted. To me, that would be the ABSENCE of sexual stimulation. If I'm not aroused, would these medications make any difference?

I guess I'm more or less asking because it seems to me that a lot of guys out there are interested in these drugs because they either want to spend hours or a weekend fucking everything they can, or because they see ED drugs as a panacea for bad sex. To be completely honest, there have certainly been times when it would have been nice for me to be able to "save face" and just get hard, get off and get rid of a guy who wasn't doing a good job rather than to go limp, have to explain it all, then have bad feelings on both sides.

I don't believe this is a good enough reason to try to get these drugs -- and I can't afford them anyway. But I do think that some guys might be well advised to consider just how important proper sexual stimulation is to THEM. For some dudes, it doesn't matter what kind of QUALITY sex they get -- a willing hole is more than enough for them. For others... not so much. Those of us in the "not so much" category may or may not benefit. Or is this not true? Is simply taking the drug and having a partner all that is necessary no matter what? Are these drugs THAT powerful? Will guys who are not turned on GET turned on? Will a boring partner become unimportant to a raging erection?

I'm perfectly happy with my own sexual response, and I don't really have any actual NEED for these medications... but I have to be honest: I'm rather curious just to find out what it feels like.
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