I just tried to pull up their respective websites and got a BS pop up for both.

When in NYC take the #1 subway downtown to Christopher Street. Visit any (or all) of the bars on Christopher Street on either side of 7th Avenue. Whatever local gay magazines that are left should be readily available to the patrons. Once you secure a copy the underwear parties will be published within.

Splash Bar (now called SBNY) used to have underwear nights. Don't know if the still do but the entertainers usually wear underwear and get wet under the bar shower. The bar in basement usually features bartenders in only underwear or jocks.

SBNY is on 17th Street between 6th and 5th Avenues. Take the #1 subway downtown to 18th Street and walk for a bit. If unfamiliar with Manhattan, look for a slight uphill grade in the streets which indicates you are going east towards the East River. That's where SBNY will be found. A downhill grade indicates your are going west towards the Hudson River.

This applies to the Christopher Street area as well.

Still no luck in finding what you seek? Walk back towards 7th Avenue, hang a right and walk uptown into Chelsea. Chelsea begins about 18th Streets and ends about 28th Streets. Numerous gay bars can be found in that area.

Or, ask a downtown local on Christopher Street or in Chelsea. They are predominately gay areas.

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