300 / 350 for a drink, 500 off, 2,000 for max. of 30 minutes sex, suck with condom, no fucking. Very hit and miss, plus with many Tawan boys you need to cope with their arrogance.
The last time I paid off at this bar (many years ago) the discussion with the boy inside the bar was pleasant enough, he did insist on knowing what tip I would pay and I am generous to working boys who are pleasant and provide what has been discussed in advance. But when we stepped out of the door the attitude kicked in, I asked him to walk to Suriwongse hotel, response: "too far away, I want a taxi and 500 Baht extra because it wastes too much of my time".
I said bye bye and walked away alone.
It's too bad because 15 years ago, in their original location on Suriwongse Road I took many pleasant and responsive young men who tried hard to please and with no attitude. In those days half or more of the staff were masculine young men with nice bodies but not muscleboys.
The owner was the cashier and short change was standard routine.
But of course each to his own.
For folks who go to China, try some of the many many massage venues in Shanghai, Shenzen, Guangchou, Beijing and many many more locations. Most venues have somebody who can speak good / enough English, usually good service, many venues have a range of twinkies to well built (i've never seen full muscle men in any of these venues, however I'm sure that's available if you can find the right contact, as in any country), what is promised is always delivered, at least the experiences I've had, reasonable prices, and cheap compared to Tawan.
Just confirms why, in Thailand, I patronize massage parlours, with some discussion with the captains I trust. If there is nobody who takes my eye and can and is quite willing to provide what I want, I pleasantly decline and leave, there's always tomorrow.
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