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Originally Posted by KewlDewd66
Besides never using the big GAY word, and keeping it all very discrete, one way or the other we all accepted the basic rules of the play, probably without thinking much about them.
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Yeah back in the days when almost no one was "out" (even Liberace talked about all his lady friends!) discretion was always the rule.
This was made much more difficult in college by the fact almost no one had private rooms - doubles or even quads were the norm. And if a roommate caught you with a girl or even a magazine it was cool - but back then you did not get caught with a guy.
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Originally Posted by KewlDewd66
The top dudes (including myself) did not need much justification for what was going on. A dude needed an outlet to release his pent-up energies, and a wet hole to fuck was far superior to whatever your right or left hand could offer in those terms.
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For us the roles were not so defined - and anal was the exception not the rule. It was like making out and fucking were "real gay" sex but blowing each other - well that was ok - just guys getting off - etc etc....
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The bottom dudes have had a bit of a problem with their narrative. Sucking cock, and taking it up your tail did not really constitute the embodiment of masculinity we all tried to achieve. So, their narrative changed to anything ranging from 'I was kinda helping my best buddy in need' to 'I was doing it in exchange for some favor. You know, a guy has got to find his way around'.
Whatever the justification for their actions may have been, it was never a sexual pleasure they were deriving from it. That would have been totally wrong, in those days. (Dude, you must be a freak if you enjoy taking it up your ass!)
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VERY true - it was was ok to admit your were horny and needed sex, but taking it to the next step and wanting it with a guy - that seemed to be going to far. Like with kissing - we would sometimes kiss in the heat of passion - but the idea of just hanging around and making out with a guy never would have happened.
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We used pretty non-suspicious phrases to get the thing going in those days. "Dude, I have got a new vid. (VHS in those days). And I also have some pizza and a sixpack. Wanna come over this evening?"
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Yeah - there had to be a justification for the action - not just you wanted sex with a guy. Knew more than one that as long as there was some straight porn - well that proved they were straight so anything after that was beyond their control....
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I was pretty much taken aback when I got a phone call from Victor.
"Dude, you have got to help me out, I have not had any in two weeks. I think, I am going to explode.", he blurted into the phone, probably without thinking much. Or the hormones must have taken over...
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Originally Posted by KewlDewd66
Victor came 15 minutes earlier than planned, blushing like a girl, and pretty apologetic. He did not mean it that way. He was looking forward to seeing me, after the long break, and all but, you know, he was not kinda really that keen on raising his legs again.
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That was probably a real breakthrough for him - maybe the first time he actually admitted - out loud - that he was really into guys.
That was a big and unheard of step to acceptance -
When talking once with an old sex buddy we were discussing how much we were afraid to say it back then - how even though we had sex a LOT each time you got together there were a few moments of nervousness - while you assessed the moment and made sure he had not "out grown" the sex games.