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Old 31st October 2015, 11:38 AM
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Gay Porn Then and Now...

When it comes to gay porn few things have REALLY changed over the years. The physics of it does limit the scope of action.

The changes in technology and now largely free availability via the net are too obvious to discuss.

Your typical 'pretext for sex' narrative did not really change in years. The dorm sex, the gym sex, the party sex, the beach sex, sex after cruising, the backroom sex, the bath/spa sex, the street hook up sex, teacher or coach and student, etc., are just but a few pretext narratives that have been very inherent to the genre since the 80's.

For some reason, I believed that not much would change in this respect.

Enters 2015 and the new crop of narratives emerged.

Here are some of the sites illustrating the shift:

CZECH GAY FANTASY

SketchySex

guy fucks buddy while gaming

The 'old' narratives really all shared at least one common denominator: a guy knew or met another guy (or a group), they went someplace where one thing led to the other... Usually, a less open-minded dude had to be 'persuaded' to join in, admit that he liked it, etc. Occasionally, promises of absolute discretion were made. Even when guys kept on messing around over and over again, no one insisted too much that this was a very lasting, binding arrangement of any kind, with relatively few exceptions.

The recently emerging crop of narratives parted with the past traditions in a radical way.

A dude who got the address via one of the apps enters the flat, and gets a BJ or fucks a guy who he had never seen, talked to, or hooked up for that matter in his life. He shoots his load and goes back to his life.

A guy gets fucked while he is playing a video game.

A few single men enter a club with a new kind of glory holes and enjoy what is aptly called a 'fuckomatic sex'.

I am not one of the guys who goes around insisting that EVERYTHING was better in the 'good, old days'. Quite the contrary, I believe that the societal changes brought about quite a few positives and that the balance of things justifies the use of the word 'progress' when we talk about being gay these days as opposed to being gay 20-30 years ago.

I am wondering what the others think about the new gay porn narratives?

KD
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Old 2nd November 2015, 09:37 AM
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The early porn seemed like it usually had to have a set up - a bit of a "reason" they were doing it. Back from a date and the girlfriend did not put out - someplace with few women (Navy, all male school, etc.) - this gave an "excuse" for why they were doing it.

There needed to be justification for having gay sex rather than "being normal" and having sex with a girl.

I think these new scenarios show more of the acceptance of gay sex - you don't need an excuse other than it feels good and you are horny.

I know younger when I was just starting to fool around with guys there always had to be adult (straight) magazines or talk about girls or something before anyone would make a move. I think the old video narratives represented that feeling of needing a reason for gay sex.

Another part is the attention span today. They don't want to watch a long set up or story - just get to the action!
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Old 2nd November 2015, 10:00 AM
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The early porn seemed like it usually had to have a set up - a bit of a "reason" they were doing it. Back from a date and the girlfriend did not put out - someplace with few women (Navy, all male school, etc.) - this gave an "excuse" for why they were doing it.

There needed to be justification for having gay sex rather than "being normal" and having sex with a girl.

I think these new scenarios show more of the acceptance of gay sex - you don't need an excuse other than it feels good and you are horny.

I know younger when I was just starting to fool around with guys there always had to be adult (straight) magazines or talk about girls or something before anyone would make a move. I think the old video narratives represented that feeling of needing a reason for gay sex.

Another part is the attention span today. They don't want to watch a long set up or story - just get to the action!
Yup. The first vids (VHS) mostly had the 'justification' element in them. This made it all more palatable for everyone involved, and somehow suggested that the guys were by all means simply str8 fellows like EVERYONE else, trying to get a release of their pent up energies.

Somewhere in the mid-80s, the porn industry started abandoning the old justification cliche, step by step. Think of Falcon Studios' Splash and you'll recognize that the guys are openly enjoying each other, and planning for it, too. The girl talk was on its way out.

Yet, the dudes used to be familiar with each other or at least believed that 'discretion was a matter of honor', so that the stories would not be spreading...

Some, if minimal pretext courting invariably took place.

All of that is out of the windowthese days.

KD
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Old 3rd November 2015, 07:50 AM
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I confess, I honestly don't have time to watch porn anymore although I did quite a bit back in the 1980s. It almost seems like I've seen everything already and nothing is really new unless there's a new context, story, or characters that seem compelling. Otherwise, it's more of the same.

Back then I really liked the Joe Gage type of things with realistic guys like I might actually encounter somewhere. I'd be driving back and forth between Texas and California and imagining I was in "LA Tool and Die." And in fact, a few times I did re-enact a couple of those scenarios. Al Parker and Surge Studios were also favorites.

My ex also showed me "Boys In The Sand" -- that was sheer sex on the beach -- and some pretty raw hardcore stuff from the New York '70s porn scene. A lot of this was in the old Bijou Catalog. He had several boxes, I have no idea how many tapes, but he was a collector of Betamax porn that he later donated to the UCLA library gay collection along with a Betamax and the Bijou Catalog. We used to joke that some cataloger at UCLA would be having fun with all that.

Anyhow, I dropped in here while reading my email this morning, I get newsletters from our affiliate and advertiser sites about their products, including new porn releases. This one out today is "Hard Drive Daddy" from Dylan Lucas, a studio which is part of a group of studios and sites marketed together.

The scene summary reminds me of some of the early '80s "cable repair" or "cable installer" porn tapes we used to have:
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Ian is a tech geek and he is on his last call of the day. It seems like a quick easy fix so why not top by and help this guy out before he calls it a day. Ian arrives at Hugh's house and he is eager to have his computer fixed.

While Ian is on the computer trying to figure out what's wrong a web page pops up of a Gay porn website which embarrasses Hugh a little bit but Ian doesn't care. Ian finds the problem and in a matter of minutes the computer is fixed and he is ready to head out the door. Hugh is right behind Ian as he follows him to the door.

Ian opens it up and Hugh closes the door not letting Ian out. Hugh stares him down and tells him to get on his knees and start sucking his cock. Ian doesn't know what to say or do at this point but he can feel his cock twitch and his heart beating faster as Hugh starts to unbutton his shirt. Ian feels the connection and just rolls with it.

Hugh undresses him and starts to suck his cock which sends Ian over the edge and he drops his guard fully. Hugh dominates Ian at the door face fucking him and eating his ass out. Once they have had their fill of cock and ass Hugh takes him to another room and fucks him with his big dick. The boyish nerd look is what Hugh loves the most as he moans and grunts fucking his smooth tight ass.
There's also a free video clip which the Message Board probably can't handle the embedding code (or at least I can't spend the time right now to work on it). Here
is a link to the clip instead


Side note: You may or may not have seen me mention that CRUSING for SEX has been losing money this year. From the summer until recently I tried using more embedded videos and links to paid porn sites as an experiment to see if that would generate additional revenue. It has not, at least not directly.

However, I've discovered that showing their clips alongside clips and links to the CRUISING for SEX Theatre that Keith set up has increased revenue for the Theatre somewhat. It had dropped to almost nothing following a change in the reimbursement formula by the provider in January, but now is recovering. I'm planning to rebrand it as "CRUISING for PORN" with a more contemporary design as one part of the larger overhaul of the CFS-related web sites.

There's a lot of other changes and upgrades I hope to do -- really need to do -- but my time is very limited. I'll be posting separately soon, I hope, about possible new funding options and asking for feedback and opinion from CFS Members.

Bob
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I remember when I first went to an adult bookstore back in high school -

The gay section was divided into "Gay" and "Anal" like fucking was extreme even in gay sex. Each booth in the back had a choice of 2 movies to pick from and a switch so you could change them. Thankfully there was always a straight movie playing with a gay movie as I would have been too afraid to go into a gay booth.

What was funny was when you came across a movie that was obviously shot on silent 8MM film and they had dubbed in sound and music. The people not even talking and the soundtrack going "oh yeah suck my dick" - LOL
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I remember when I first went to an adult bookstore back in high school -

The gay section was divided into "Gay" and "Anal" like fucking was extreme even in gay sex. Each booth in the back had a choice of 2 movies to pick from and a switch so you could change them. Thankfully there was always a straight movie playing with a gay movie as I would have been too afraid to go into a gay booth.

What was funny was when you came across a movie that was obviously shot on silent 8MM film and they had dubbed in sound and music. The people not even talking and the soundtrack going "oh yeah suck my dick" - LOL
Few years ago, a major sex club in San Francisco, CA, (SoMa) showed a number of those 8mm movies, John mentioned above. I was quite amazed. Mostly because, neither my buddies nor I had seen any of those in our time and day. We go back to the Betamax and VHS but the 8mm gay movies have never crossed our radars. (Somehow, the str8 ones did make it into our part of the world, but were deemed totally 'old fashioned' even then...)

Very few of the guys who belonged to our m2m sex coterie actually admitted to having any gay porn. This was a bit too risky to start with, and far too expensive in those days, for most of the college kids living on their rather meagre allowances.

The very few guys who owned the original VHS cassettes of mostly Falcon productions guarded them with their lives. They also made few illegal copies that were given to the guys whom they 'owed' something. Sure, a full-feature gay movie was a valuable asset in an age that did not know of internet, free clips, torrents, etc. The story had it that every good party, i.e. a threesome or a foursome had to start by watching one of those flicks: 'to get the guys going'. Having such an option in your video collection made you a most desirable host who usually had the first pick of the guys, and who usually controlled the play to some extent. Not a trifle thing in those days...

KD
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