Who the hell are you to call swallowing
"sick and perverted"? It's bad enough we
have to listen to this shit from the
Jerry Falwells of the world without
having to hear it here as well. If
you're not into it due to health risks,
that's your business. But keep your
name calling to yourself or you might
wind up with a busted lip of your own.

I thought, statistically, one was fairly safe from contracting HIV from giving oral sex, and receiving the nectar of the gods, but just in case, I make sure my mouth is healthy, don't abuse the tissue lining the mouth, and use hydrogen peroxide right after the pleasurable act.

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brian

Re: DW resp.
This is a free forum so we can all say what we feel in regards to any sexual topic. Oral sex and swallowing is my main topic. You nor anyone else can show me any other reason why swallowing cum is good. Its a nasty habit and should be stop.
Its your choice if you want to live this way, i wont stop you. But as for me, swallowing is not my thing nor would i let anyone take mine.
And even though everyone says you cant catch HIV from oral sex, i do believe you can and swallowing cum just adds more to the risk.
Prove to me otherwise!

Interesting to me how even 'frank discussions' like this one eventually lead to name calling and petty vitriolic bullshit.

LatinBottom, why don't you tell us what you do like about having sex with a man.

And WayneDoland, you are right. It is each and every man's responsibility to take care of himself -- drive a car, wear or don't wear a seat belt. Suck or get sucked, do or don't wear a rubber.

There are enough preachers prancing about the land these days and my own view is, in this forum, we should be free from preaching. We're all grown men and if you're reading this and you're not, then I hope you learn something.

I think Dr. Laura listeners have invaded this forum...

HB.

All life is risk...the real question is how much risk are you willing to take.

What I dislike about the whole HIV issue when it comes from the medical community is that there is a lack of consensus of "how much" risk oral sex is. Some say its high risk when no condom is used and some say its low risk when no condom is used.

I have had a lot of oral sex in my adult life...Sometimes I swallow, sometimes I don't, always aware of the risk-high or low. Sometimes the feeling of a man's cock pulsating a load down my throat is sacred, but other times I feel stupid for swallowing. Most of the time, I convince myself that a man cumming all over me is more sexy. yes, pre-cum has HIV..but again, driving a car, standing in a shower with no mat, eating canned soup, eating a burger...all things in life have risk and you can't hide from it. Nothing is risk free, nor should it be. Just be wise, use a seat belt, use a bath mat, cook that burger till it's dead, and yes, take care of your oral health and decide....is this worth it? Frankly, the answer is yes, sometimes. And Hon, that's life.

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Trajanus, wherever you are, I'm glad you're on the planet.

HB.

All im saying is that swallowing is unhealty and can cause you heath risk. Just be careful and use discretion. Peace to all from me....... :-)

Everyone talks about getting HIV through
giving oral sex. But what about receiving?
I enjoy getting blowjobs,
but I never have sucked a dick myself
What dangers are there for a suckee?

randyton,
Check out this website. It is The Safe Sex Forum at the www.thebody.com It says nobody has ever been infected with HIV by receiving oral sex (exposure to saliva). Not a single reported case worldwide!
http://www.thebody.com/sowadsky/latex.html

I am glad to learn that there are people out there who just love to deep-throat a man's meat. I am an older man, was married, now divorced, with kids, etc. I love having a guy (or gal) swallow every inch of my 8" all the way down to my nuts. It's the greatest feeling in the world to be able to shove it all the way down like that and shoot my load with it all the way down inside a good piece of throat-pussy. I have a hard time finding guys (gals even harder) who like it that way, but when I do, they are friends of mine for life. I am grateful to learn that there are guys out there who get off doing only this. Most times guys want me to butt-fuck them in order to get all of it down, but I don't enjoy anything but deep-throat sex. I love to lay back and let a guy climb between my legs and "pig out" on my meat and balls. I also love standing with the guy down on his knees, and being able to grab the back of his head and guide his throat up and down on my meat. I really love to have the guy on his back with his head hanging over the edge of the bed, and me climb on top and fuck deep down in his deep throat. Thanks to all of you who enjoy servicing meat in this fashion, because it makes me feel better knowing you enjoy getting it that way, too. I have never had a std and am lucky, I guess. But I also know that I have not transmitted anything to the talented cocksuckers I've been fortunate enough to hook up with - and plan to keep it that way.

I'm not telling anyone what to do, but I think that the idea that Oral Sex is totally safe is probably wrong. I've been an avid cocksucker for years, and I've not practiced anal sex...and I'm HIV Positive today. I'm not trying to scare anyone or ruin oral sex for anyone...I'm just trying to say that you ought to know that there is risk involved. Of course, everything we do in life has risk...so you have to decide your level of comfort. Having HIV isn't the end of the world...but it's no picnic, either.

I find it interesting to read that some men find no enjoyment when having their cocks sucked while wearing a condom.

When a BEAUTIFUL, HOT, MAN pulls your soft meat into his mouth and uses that facial orifice to bring you to climax he is giving you a BLOWJOB.
With a condom, and your partners enthusiasm, you now have available to you your partner's throat. A willing and accomodating throat takes the two of you to a whole new sexual plateau. You no longer lay back and wait for the sensual feel of a warm mouth, barely felt through a latex covering, to arouse you. You up the ante by using this hot stud's throat to get off. You FUCK HIS FACE! Grasp his head with both hands and force your meat down his throat. Ride his face and present each stroke past his tonsils as a gift to him. Believe me, you will feel this!! And so will he.

Protection is the second best policy to avoid STDs and HIV. Always take precautions. But their is no sense in settling for a boring blowjob when we can create an incredible bond with a "sharing partner". Plus, a man who has just gagged and choked on your long, hard cock is always incredibly affectionate when you bend down to kiss his wet lips. A THROAT FUCK is a special gift to a man. It is a special gift from a man. It is a gift from both to both.

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to latinobottom......trust me, there is absolutely NOTHING sick and/or perverted about swallowing cum. i actually find your statements intriguing, seeing how you consider yourself a "bottom". if two people are in a monogamous relationship, and both are "clean", there's no harm in it. i am in such a relationship, and i look forward to my man giving me that which is himself when i suck him. we also try making it interesting....getting out the ole hershey's chocolate syrup and pouring some on his cock. man it's terrific!....and when he cums the combined taste of his jizz and the chocolate just sends me over the edge!!

so, if you're clean and your partner is clean, what's the problem?

eater

IT'S NICE TO KNOW THERE ARE GUYS LIKE daddydick8 OUT THE WHO REALLY KNOW HOW TO FEED A COCKSUCKER LIKE ME PROPERLY. I'M 54 YEARS OLD AND HAVE BEEN SUCKING COCK SINCE I WAS 12. BACK WHEN I FIRST STARTED I HATED IT WHEN A GUY WOULD COME IN MY MOUTH. I WOULD PULL AWAY TO AVOID IT. THEN ONE DAY THIS GUY WAS SLOWLY AND GENTLY FUCKING MY MOUTH, HIS COCK EXPANDING BY THE MINUTE. I FELT TOTALLY IN CONTROL. HE TOLD ME HE WANTED ME TO TAKE HIS COME IN MY MOUTH, AND WHEN I TRIED TO PULL AWAY HE LET ME BACK OFF ONLY UNTIL THE HEAD AND ABOUT 2 INCHES WERE STILL IN ME. HE GENTLY BUT FIRMLY HELD MY HEAD IN PLACE, AND JUST POURED THE SWEETEST TASTING NECTAR INTO MY MOUTH, THEN TOLD ME TO SWALLOW IT AND LICK HIS COCK CLEAN. I WAS HOOKED, AND FROM THAT DAY ON VOWED TO BECOME THE BEST COCKSUCKER/SWALLOWER I COULD BE. IT WASN'T TIL ABOUT 11 YEARS AGO I BECAME HIV+; THAT BEING THRU ANAL SEX. I KNOW THAT I CAN'T INFECT ANYONE BY SUCKING THEM OFF SO IF SOMEONE WANTS TO LAY BACK AND BE SERVICED COMPLETELY WITHOUT HAVING TO RECIPROCATE, I'M HERE TO PLEASE. I LOVE IT WHEN A GUY SHOOTS IT IN MY MOUTH, BUT IF HE INSISTS ON SHOOTING IT WHILE HE'S BURIED IN MY THROAT, I JUST ENCOURAGE HIM BY TONGUING HIS TIGHTENED-UP BALL SACK WHILE HIS COCK IS HAVING IT'S WAY WITH MY THROAT.
AND IF I EVER RUN INTO daddydick8, I'LL MAKE SURE HE HAS EXACTLY WHAT HE WANTS.

NOW FOR THE REST OF THE STORY, AS PAUL HARVEY WOULD SAY. FROM 1985, WHEN I TESTED NEGATIVE ON 3 CONSECUTIVE TESTS, TO 1988 WHEN I TESTED POSITIVE, I HAD ANAL SEX 3 TIMES. I HAD ORAL SEX A GOOD DEAL MORE THAN THAT, ALTHOUGH IT WASN'T EVEN WEEKLY. SO WHILE IT IS POSSIBLE I GOT INFECTED THROUGH ANAL SEX, IT IS ALSO VERY LIKELY I GOT INFECTED THROUGH ORAL SEX. THE BOTTOM LINE IS THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS "SAFE" SEX! I HAVE NEVER HAD AN OPPURTUNISTIC INFECTION TO BE CLASSIFIED AS HAVING AIDS, BUT "ADVANCED HIV DISEASE" HAS CAUSED WASTING SYNDROME, WHICH TOOK ME FROM 200 LBS DOWN TO 158 IN A 3 MONTH PERIOD. HIV MEDICATIONS HAVE CAUSED SEVERE INTESTINAL DISORDERS, DIABETES, AND UNTOLD ACHES AND PAINS. NEW MEDICATICATIONS HAVE RESTORED ME TO FAIRLY GOOD HEALTH, BUT AT TREMENDOUS COST.
WHEREAS I THOUGHT I WOULD BE DEAD YEARS AGO, I AM NOW LOOKING FORWARD TO RETIREMENT IN THE FUTURE. BUT IT AIN'T EASY, GUYS. THE NEUROPATHY FROM THE DRUGS, THE GENERAL ACHES AND PAINS ARE A CONSTANT REMINDER EVERY DAY THAT I AM INFECTED. SO MY ADVICE IS THIS: THINK FIRST ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT YOU CAN HONESTLY SAY " THE RISK IS WORTH IT" PEACE!