Ah ... Obelisks - this was really the ultimate. A huge multi-story complex. I used to soak in its rooftop jacuzzi for hours under the moonlight. Sometimes it was loaded with East Asian boys. Every kind of fun there. Still can't believe it's gone.

I think I went to Obelisk in the daylight and to Colony at night. It must have made all the difference.

Any recent reports from Muffin or Muffil?

I was there last month. Same as before: tons of eye candy, but the odds are not in your favor unless you're under 30 and in good shape.

Where to go?
 

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-- So where does that leave the average guy, and especially a farang, even if he does speak Thai, who's over 30 and whose body is in just so-so shape?
- Possibly only BABYLON and HEAVEN SAUNAS? -- :(

i think you can add bangkok10 for the more mature and chubby crowd.

Bangkok10 - already in state of disrepair (except that don't repair), unfriendly staff very ready to close up before 10pm!!

wow, i thought they were barely a year old.

No- though my success ratio in BKk is lower as in the provinces (admittedly only 2 towns last year) there are more-but as always success is never garanteed. BTW-not much is spoken in general in sauna's anyway-one really does not have to be fluent in Thai.
Male Box-in faraway BangBon or so-Ram II road.
ORION-also in west-BKK, beside the Tesco/near to Central Pinklao.
Both Farose sauna's- 1 is rundown, but heaven for tops.
BUT: if you seriously much older as 30 then expect those interested also to be older as 30. Thats the play in about every sauna, i guess. Those where youngsters come in a beeline for you just for being white skinned are sparse indeed.