He's no longer there.

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I paid Apsara a return visit; there was a gay boy on "tout duty" outside, so I told him I wanted a massage from him. About two thirds of the way through there was some fumbling, then he asked if I would give him a tip. I hadn't realised a tip was optional but apparently there are numbers of Japanese who graciously hand over a twenty baht note at the end, so a friend tells me. Having agreed that there would indeed be some monetary reward the schoolboy fumbling continued and he wanted me to suck his cock. All-in-all hardly worth the bother - his massage technique was so much better.

But then he decided at the end (after the 1000-baht tip for a two-hour massage and hand-job - he was ever so grateful) that he would hand over a very tatty Apsara business card with his contact details thereon. There must be an inverse relationship (I've observed it so often) between the sex skills of the boy and his keen-ness to give out his mobile phone number and other contact details, as if I'd actually want to see him again. The good ones never have to bother; I'm always having to ask for theirs.

So I guess I'm going to have to keep going back until I stumble across the unidentified boy from a previous poster's visit (in another thread?) who can't get enough cum to swallow.

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-- The above is what happens when other respondants omit details/useful info.?
- Still, look-on the good side: possibly you'll enjoy yourself - and the boyz - by cuming in and working your way through 'APSARA.' - ha!
-- bibi. --

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Sorry, what is "FF"? Fist fuck? I don't think you'll find it.

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So, I've got a question for the group....

When I go to get a legitimate (non-sexual) massage, what is the customary tip? I know that it should be no where near what I give a guy who ploughs me, but what's fair? And, would such a tip be higher in touristy places like Silom than they would be at my neighbourhood massage place?

Thanks in advance for the help.

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The only places I have been to for non-sexual massage have been those along Silom Road and up Rama 4 Road (Sanctuary and Candle-T-Spa). I don't think I have any experience with "neighbourhood" places. Where nothing sexual occurred, I normally tip 100 - 500 baht purely depending on the quality of the massage (and I know a fair bit about massage techniques to be able to tell the difference).

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-- I can write about only 'SILOM MASSAGE.', whither I go sometimes for either an hour's foot massage, or a 90 mins. straight and thoroughly professional oil-massage from Khun Jhon.
- For the foot-massage I give 100.Bh. and for the oil massage I give 500.Bh..
- Out in the suburbs I'd expect that as the rates are LESS so the expectations of the masseurs would be LESS - but have no first hand experience of that.
-- bibi.. --

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I usually go to those places on Soi Wall Street Inn (off Suriwong, opposite the Montien Hotel) - they all charge pretty much a standard 350 baht for a two-hour Thai massage. From a boy who worked in one of them (and who know works at Apsara) I can report that the masseurs get a salary of 1500 baht per 10 days - so about 4500/month. That's round about what anyone in the lowest rank of the Thai work force gets. The reception in one of them has a reasonably large notice near the till that says "No tip is expected; please report if you are asked for a tip". I usually hand over 500 baht to the receptionist, and tip the masseur the balance at the end.

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Users of the "no hanky panky" massage at Babylon .What is considered a fair tip for a competent/good 1 hr oil massage there ?

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Having decided to give up on Body Club for a bit, went to B&N last Sunday. Not that many boys and the guy in charge who noted that I had not been there for a long time said all the boys were good. Selected the 90 min service. Not in the room for more than 65 minutes and service just a hand job. Mentioned this to guy in charge who just smiled; I informed him not to expect me back for a long time. On the lift going down I noticed a sign on the first floor that said Men Sauna. Did not go and investigate. Anyone know about this?

Yesterday, after flying back from NY, went to Hero about 5.30pm. There were a number of customers sitting around looking at the boys. Seemed just to have two captains who ignored me, spent a long time seemingly explaining every boy to a couple of other customers. After 10 minutes got up and asked the young guy behind the counter how long I was going to have to wait to get served. He just smiled so walked out and went to Banana club.

At Banana, owner also greeted me with comment had not seen me for a long time. Had a captain inside who not seen before. Selected boy A who I remember having had before. Massage was so so. Wanted to just give had job but I was not "responding" to that and said would not get hard by just a hand job. Said he had problem in his mouth so could not suck (surely a significant impediment to doing his job??) but eventually he did. On paying, owner he asked me how it went and I told him. As always there, he was concerned, told me he had replaced many of his boys, said that light skinned boy Nick was very good and offered me an immediate free massage with him. As had no time said will be back - and will be. This is the one massage place where the owner really seems to care. They will be closed this Monday to Wednesday when they take their annual beach holiday.

As I use the Gym at the Ambassador, I am a regular user of their massage (gym, massage, sauna) is a nice way to start a Saturday and Sunday morning. Always a consistent level of quality there. Massage itself is always good and the standard is you can suck them but they just give hand job (and fuck you if you want) other than one guy who sucks and one or two that now into licking around that area.

Need to get back to GQ as that, IMO, had the most upmarket rooms and some good boys. Just did not like the fact that the tip you paid got handed into the cashier.

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So I guess I'm going to have to keep going back until I stumble across the unidentified boy from a previous poster's visit (in another thread?) who can't get enough cum to swallow.

Look no further!
I have found him or somebody that give the same service at least. He took it all and in the end I had to ask him to let go as I am very sensitive after orgasm, he came on my chest. He must be gay, I did not ask, I will not give his name on this board but if you are a regular on this board send me a private mail and I will give you his name and mobile number, He is very sweet by the way and give a very good massage. Silom GWM check your mail

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While I have occasionally come across mention of GQ, I've never been there.
Could you fill us in on
1. Where it is
2. Whether their rates are competitive with, say, Hero's
3. To what degree are the masseurs undresed during the session
4. Whether post-massage, the service goes beyond a handjob?

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Went back to Banana - had Nick and he was good.

Went to GQ tonight. Dreaded Ned is always a good place to check addresses etc:
GQ Men
253/4 Soi Suan Phlu 6
Phone: (0) 2677 - 5915
Website: http://www.gqmanmassage.com

It would be a trek from nearest BTS - would need a taxi. If you come onto Sathorn from Soi Convent, Soi Suan Phlu is across the road on left - Baan Kanitha (sp) is on the corner. It is then some way down on LHS (you do not seem to pass sois 2 and 4 before you get to 6) and then on the sub soi it is on the RHS very clearly signed. At the end they ask you if you want them to call a taxi for you (in fact boy goes onto the main street to get one).

They had a very good selection of boys - choice of 1 hour or 90 minutes, oil, Johnsons oil, cream, aroma oils etc etc. I think the basic was Bht500 for an hour - I prefer cream and that was Bht700 one hour. Rooms are spacious and have showers. Today boy started naked and was hard when he was massaging my back with his dick strategically placed. I am pretty sure the first time I was there boy kept his trousers on until the business end of things (being my first time was not sure quite what to expect). It is definitely in the Hero, Arena category of massage place rather than Apsara type place so, yes, full service. Its going back on my preferred list. Also seems they no longer hand their tip in to cashier at the end as they use to.

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I had two pretty bad experiences at GQ during their first couple months of operation, then never went back. I'm glad to hear it might be getting better, because the facility is certainly nice.

I've also had Nick at Banana Club and agree that he's a keeper.

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Is their quoted service charge the actual minimum tip?

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