Any one know where to find any reasonably up-to-date listings?

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try this site: thailandscene.com - then follow menu
seems to be very accurate on massage venues- a little less on sauna's. many of it's links are obsolete though-as f.e. the masseurthailand site has gone-and there were a lot advertising via there

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-- For those in BKK. possibly any of the freebie. mags. & maps that one can pick-up from outlets like BALCONY BAR, (Si Lom 4.), MAXI'S BAR, (Soi Twilight.),.
-- Bibi. --

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Sexy, those maps/mags only show the advertisers-thailandscene is mor accessible and more accurate in shwoing the full picture.
Last week; ADONIS (JUNIOR)-Sapan Kwai-soi Elisabeth Hotel-at indeed the very same place as has been for years and years. To cut it short; except for a thorough scrub it also has not changed at all.
Entry 100 bt/weekdays/120 weekend. You get also a coupon-5 of which give 1 free entry-I found 2 more in my locker so duly left mine with it.
Its a 4-story double shophouse from a row. Beside entry are the lockers-some 70 and 2 coin-fed computers-both busy with gayromeo and the like. You get a large and small towel-both well worn. No condoms or easily be found-but I guess bar stocks them.
Floor 1 has a large bar-with hard to find purified water too. Very smokey. Also an eclosed work-out room with 2/3 outdated things anbd a KaraOk room-with 2 fully clad crooners.
Floor 2 has the cabins-and a TV showing STRAIGHT por-Hollywood-but with some 3somes.
Floor 3 has more cabins, is very dark-and has a small open-air patio. Some cabins here have old Thai gay por-but I alas missed Midway's.
Only floors 1+2 have a semblence of AC-its very hot and open in 3-and lots f mozzies too. It all looks very dated and worn and well-used.
Maybe some 15 customers-one good looking just got dressed when I dit undr. Just before I came in some lookalike of the North Korean dictator Kim-JOng-Il came in-belly, thick glasses, curly hair-and he started grabbbing as soon as he saw me. MOre Sino-Thai with fff and sds (fear for farang-small dick syndrome). And a very few normal Thai-30/40 yrs. Alas-they seemed to want the other side as I wanted. left after the 2nd mozzie bit me.
Only if youre desperate, bring OFF and skeetoleene. But even then you have the few more bt to go to nearby 39 undergroung, I guess.

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MIXMAN- Pra Nakorn, near Khao sarn and sanam Luang.
See earlier report by sextile.
Discount entry is now 99 bt/early bird <19.00 or 49 bt for students. 129 bt for normal.
The place has NO AC-and thus may suffer from mosquitoes too.
It is very basic-an older office house converted with the least expense-nothing of designed arts that any gay place seems to have.
They now give out condoms on entry-and also sell sexy underwear there-and i found 1 more in myu locker-maybe left by some unlucky former customer.
The trick with the towles seems to be to tye them together-so that your sides are bare-but you need some friendly other to do that for you.
The big show-bigC and fu..ng also-21.30 in the open-air rooftop-of which I feel very shy. Must have been same boys-strangely they were in the crowd before and after-but wore big white towels-which I only grasped in that show, but also afters they stayed on.
On this rooftop is also a bar with a very tall spiky hair lad tendering-tell him he looks so much like a Korean popstar and he melt for you in your arms. They do some free drinks here.
Most amazing-they speak to you-also other patrons and are not that shy. Even with the 10.000+ farang at nearby KhaoSarn we seem to be a rarity-was asked about wellbeing many times and smiled at.
On my visit there was a bunch of 6-7 deafmutes: on their weekly binge. Quite entertaining-and they set up some trick for me, may report later on that.
Again another side of amazing Thailand.
Negative point; to get there you have to fend off a whole load of ugly katoeys and elder ladies for rent on the big road, yuck.

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-- Khun Pong,
- Agreed; but at least they give some starting-off point - even if the maps aren't as strictly accurate as one would like.
- I'll bear Welcome to Thailandscene.com! in mind - thanx for that.
-- Bibi. --

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-- Having a few spare mins.before today's, (08th.), lunch. I spent them skimming-though this web-site - an interesting refresher, as it were.

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site thailandscene is now dragoncastle.com
Indidentally I have tried to compose a full list of BKK-gay sauna's last week. Also on tmmsociety (all down-links in english) there are a dozen or so more. Spread out all over this big city, but notably nearly 10 around Bangkapi/RamkamHaeng.
Question (and hope this time I can get logged on): some show sauna's is what are eseentially gay-massage palces, like Pumarin and even hreo. I think they may have some sauna-cubicle, but as a kinf of treatment, not as in meeting-sauna. Does anyone have a clue about that?

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Pumarin has a sauna next door. It is seperate from the massage joint.

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