If only they did, Keith.

I can put up with pop-ups a lot more easily than with all this popping off about them. :-)

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-- Reply: No - because I was unfamiliar with that particular site until after khun Yannawa had posted his message, (this thread #66.);
- However I did post in CFS. (Massage venues - #1,065.), - with wch. I am MORE familiar - from wch. a certain amount of correspondence did develop.

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Perhaps if the 'listings' (listing by towns then venues, especially outside of the big city) was more visible on the CFS site more people would share some input.

I have no idea whether it's possible or whether it's of commercial gain to CFS*, but why not have something like a flashing block alongside the word Thailand (flashing block indicating 'upcountry venues' or some similar words).

* I recognize the existenence of the site is ultimately for commerical gain (and why not) and I therefore recognize that the owner wants to highlight the things the owner believes will attract both members and advertisers.

Over to you.

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Yes, I did enter coordinates on my original listing, but cannot remember whether I entered them in the "Directions" box or "Review" area. Certainly no "automatic system" would be able to generate accurate coordinates from a Thai address.

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Curious to see how/if Google maps has learned how to work with Thai addresses. What is it with those addresses? If anyone knows the story as to why Thai addresses seem so unusable to Westerners (maybe even to the Thai), I'd love to read about it.

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Street numbers are given out as vacant land is developed -- so they are not necessary in order. When a piece of land is subdivided, the whole piece gets a number, then the subdivided pieces have their own number after a slash. IE., if a piece of land with house number "555" is subdivided, the smaller pieces get 555/1, 555/2, etc.

But the plot of land next to 555 might just as well be 22.

Sometimes it is impossible to find things without the help of the mail man.

None of the GPS programs (Garmin, Tom Tom, Google) can focus down to an individual address for this reason. Best they can get is an intersection or a nearby landmark.

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Thanks for the explanation, Icon. I guess this means that we should always attempt to get cross-street names and nearby landmarks for our data about Thailand.

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Similar situation in Japan. The address gives you the block number but the building numbers are chronological not sequential. i.e appear completely random. .. and a block could be several hundred metres square.

Keith , have you ever visited Thailand ?

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Yes, but it was back in the mid-80's. A return to Asia including Thailand is long overdue.

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Better hurry ! The wowsers and do gooders are still trying to close the bars and stop the fun. Used to be all night opening, now 1 am for bars and 2 am for discos - min age for alc service now 20 and (thankfully) very heavy penalties for narcotics. There were even police raids on massage parlours in Pattaya recently where (shock horror) extra's were offered not on the menu ! Apparently the upstairs rooms were for sexual favours ! Still the flow of "boys" (I mean legal age guys !) is endless and its as close to Paradise as most of us sinners will ever get

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Have you read this week's news about Pattaya? Opening hours in the zone are being extended to 4.30, with the possibility of 24-hour operations some time soon.

As for me, the only place I want to be past 1.00 is in bed with a warm Thai guy.
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I'm in Sydney this week - back to Pattaya next week. Great news for tourism - and the supply of thai guys !

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-- My Enthusiastic & American Friend has suggested that instead of repeat visits to PATTAYA we should spread our wings and next year visit the southern areas of I-SAN: he has in mind BURI RAM, SURIN and/or UBON.
- Or should we think of going farther NORTH?
-- Any up-to-date and first hand. info. would be welcomed - for wch. thanks in advance.

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I was in Ubon about two months ago and loved the atmosphere there.

I went to Famous Bar which is a coyotee bar with both male and female customers. Useless to go there before 11 pm, but some absolute stunners work here, you could pick one if you are lucky. Located behind the old bus station in the Regent Palace Hotel area, Chayangkun Rd.

There is also a new karaoke with boys, most of them very nice next-door guys. "Black Beans" karaoke almost next door to Krung Thong Hotel in downtown Ubon.

For massage places, you have the Relaxing Sauna (which I did not vist) 163/1 Soi Phromrat 1, which is rather difficult to find from what I read. I also saw an ad about a new place : Erawan Thai Massage & spa - behind wat Dorn Klang 789/11 soi 2 Tambon Kham Yai Amphoe Muang Ubon tél 080-1693187

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Black Beans...or "thua dam"...a Thai colloquialism for anal sex. As in "len thua dam", playing with black beans.

Someone asked before how Thai people knew what was a gay place and what wasn't...the name often gives a clue!
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