Babylon downhill - Page 3

biggles69 · #1 29th November 2010, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by wantasian

I've found Silverdaddies to be a total waste of time--but maybe I'm too young at 49.

Well then - at least you have something to look forward to you as the clock ticks past the big 5 - 0

wantasian · #2 29th November 2010, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by jamestopguy

Mr Icon,
As said above, you will be old one day. Your ageisim is sickening and very insulting to many of the readers of this board. Just because you are a moderator does not make you immune from being
a very rude and unpleasant man

I don't blame anyone for "ageism"--as one gets older, the bad characteristics stand out more and get worse (lack of hygiene, poor taste in style, alcholism, bad habits, kookiness, lack of financial resources, etc.). Also, what really disgusts me is older guys who think they're attractive and charming (Mr. Personality). I've found very few aged men who are truly interesting or that a young guy should have any interest in being in a relationship with (based on mental things). The same goes for older women (the whole cougar thing). Basically there is punishment when one gets older for what one did wrong in one's youth. For example, I have no pity on nasty, weird, young queens who played sadistic mind games, and then got older and are disappointed in their lives. You never know what planet older guys are from (what their past lives are).

Taoboxer · #3 29th November 2010, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by wantasian

I don't blame anyone for "ageism"--as one gets older, the bad characteristics stand out more and get worse (lack of hygiene, poor taste in style, alcholism, bad habits, kookiness, lack of financial resources, etc.). Also, what really disgusts me is older guys who think they're attractive and charming...

OOooooh dear! I'm guilty of bad habits (too many to list), kookiness and think I'm attractive (I'm still not sure about "charming") and since I run around shirtless in teeny-tiny shorts so much of the time, I guess I'll have to plead mea culpa to poor taste in style, too (though I have been told that I taste very good...does that make up for it?). But then, being a beach bum (well, a writer who writes at the beach, anyway), I guess I do get away with a lot of things.

I can understand people prefering one particular age group over another based on sexual tastes but I wouldn't want to have to spend the rest of my life with anybody who's very much younger than me since I've had the experience of having to try to keep one entertained while trying to get my latest book done on time.

The other thing I don't understand is the need to constantly belittle people who are older and in less than good shape. Everyone needs love - or at least the hope of it - and if some younger Asian guy thinks a portly European gentleman of advanced years is more attractive than a younger one in better physical condition, I really feel it's nobody's business but that of the two people involved in the relationship.

I remember, as a teenager, some of my peers cruising for portly and elderly European gents around the harbour area back in the 70s. My friends came from well-off families, so there was no question of their looking for a sugar daddy.

dorothy dix · #4 29th November 2010, 07:58 PM

Please check out the Babylon website for photos and videos of recent funtions.You'll enjoy playing spot the old guy.

Have spent last month in Thailand and some of it in BKK and Babylon.All of you are right about Babylon.It is many things,a real jumble sale.Whatever prism you see it through it will be that especially during tourist season.You just don't know who will be there with many turning up because of its legendary status.

Keith · #5 29th November 2010, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by jamestopguy

Mr Icon,
As said above, you will be old one day. Your ageisim is sickening and very insulting to many of the readers of this board. Just because you are a moderator does not make you immune from being
a very rude and unpleasant man

Being a moderator does require you have thick skin! I've followed this thread and while I don't fully agree with everything said by icon513, it is over the top to accuse him of ageism.

icon513 · #6 1st December 2010, 07:47 AM

I already had the cutest Thai guy in Adelaide. Met him at the Prince Cinema, and he looked for everything like a construction worker fresh off the site...until he showed me his Aussie passport.
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icon513 · #7 4th December 2010, 12:35 AM

How old is your "frequently visiting American friend", then, if you refer to him as "elderly"?
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Yannawa · #8 4th December 2010, 01:03 AM

From my occassional sightings of SexyT on the massage circuit, he is nowhere near 80 or even 70. With his Japanese army cap, he looks less than 60. He has even had massage boys older than himself I believe.

sextile · #9 4th December 2010, 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by icon513

How old is your "frequently visiting American friend", then, if you refer to him as "elderly"?Posted via Mobile Device

-- 'A woman who tells you her age is capable of telling you anything.', (O. Wilde.),.

LuvThailand · #10 2nd January 2011, 03:45 AM

Having spent the last 3 days at Babylon for at least a couple of hours each day, I have to say me experiences in the last 72 hours reinforce Babylon as the premier Gay Sauna for western men in Bangkok. On 31 December 2010 it was "foam party" night...which I didn't stay for. I needed rest! After initially hooking up with a very cute, slim, smooth, short Vietnamese guy, I took a rest before hooking up with a tall, slim, smooth and very sweet Vietnamese guy. Both guys spoke excellent English, both were very enthusiastic "in bed". I went back on 1 January and fortunately there were many less patrons there....but still I enjoyed intimacies with two slim and sexy young men (both Thai this time) and left with a sizable smile upon my dial. And today's encounters....same old same old. Lol.
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LuvThailand · #11 3rd January 2011, 08:08 AM

With the massive growth in social networking sites in the last couple of years, and the much more affordable access to the Internet, it is inevitable that the younger guys are going to use those media to either network with their own age or offer themselves to older guys in exchange for a few ฿. Therefore Babylon continues to evolve.
I do wonder whether many of the younger locals may have just stopped going to saunas in favour of searching on line. I guess we can speculate until...well until they see the folly of their ways and return en masse to Babylon. Lol
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asiatraveler · #12 3rd January 2011, 09:03 AM

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I do wonder whether many of the younger locals may have just stopped going to saunas in favour of searching on line.

Although I agree that younger locals are using the internet widely, I visited three other saunas (with mixed results) and can say that a considerable number of young locals continue to use saunas. There's something about the thrill of the chase, in a real time environment, that cannot be duplicated on line.

wantasian · #13 4th January 2011, 01:48 AM

I just got back from a Bangkok visit that started with my arriving at my hotel (Pinnacle) around 1 a.m. on December 20. I left to return to the U.S. in the early morning of January 3. Anyway, I checked out several cruising areas in Bangkok during the daytime and found them to be totally bad and/or dead--worse than ever before.

I went to Babylon for something to do during the day (about once every other day). It sure looks like older farangs are quickly snapped up by nice young Thai in there. Unfortunately, I have a problem. I'm tall and basically slim and 49 (but look younger). I don't want to sound conceited, but I think my problem is that I'm too young for Babylon. It's just amazing to see older farangs quickly disappear into booths with young Thai. I still cannot figure out the psychology of the place. Also, what amazes me is how all of a sudden, almost all the booths become occupied. I'm observant but still don't see who goes into the booths. It's just amazing how secretly and quickly this is done.

Anyway, I can still connect with some nice Thai in Babylon--but it's really difficult and frustrating. It's amazing to see average older farangs walk in and immediately disappear into a booth. (It seems that having a "silver daddy" appearance helps.) So hopefully I have that to look forward to.

Sometimes I had good luck in that new downstairs under the metal grate crossover section.

I hated December 31 starting around 6 or 7 when the place got so unbelievably crowded that I literally had a problem getting out of Babylon to go to Central World for the New Year's celebrations. It was cram-packed with wall-to-wall bodies (even though all areas of Babylon were opened up). All booths were occupied.

The other thing that always baffled me was all the hot young Thai who go with other Thai. Again, why are they going to Babylon, then?

By the way, Babylon continues to jack up its prices. I think it was 380 baht on December 31.

The other weird thing is to see really hot young farangs, arabs, etc. pose forever in the hallways. I mean, why don't they just connect with some other hot guy? I suppose this is some weird gay mental thing they have to do.

Also, I don't understand why Babylon waits until later in the day to open up the other areas. Sometimes that little black cruising area upstairs (the Bruegel gallery) gets so cram-packed nobody can even walk in there.

Salimkhan · #14 4th January 2011, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by wantasian

I just got back from a Bangkok visit that started with my arriving at my hotel (Pinnacle) around 1 a.m. on December 20. I left to return to the U.S. in the early morning of January 3. Anyway, I checked out several cruising areas in Bangkok during the daytime and found them to be totally bad and/or dead--worse than ever before.

I went to Babylon for something to do during the day (about once every other day). It sure looks like older farangs are quickly snapped up by nice young Thai in there. Unfortunately, I have a problem. Isn't that enlightenment ?? I'm tall and basically slim and 49 (but look younger). I don't want to sound conceited

, but I think my problem is that I'm too young for Babylon. It's just amazing to see older farangs quickly disappear into booths with young Thai. Suggest you wait a few years to become an old farang I still cannot figure out the psychology of the place. Also, what amazes me is how all of a sudden, almost all the booths become occupied. I'm observant but still don't see who goes into the booths. It's just amazing how secretly and quickly this is done.

Anyway, I can still connect with some nice Thai in Babylon--but it's really difficult and frustrating. It's amazing to see average older farangs walk in and immediately disappear into a booth. (It seems that having a "silver daddy" appearance helps.) So hopefully I have that to look forward to maturing gracefully .

Sometimes I had good luck in that new downstairs under the metal grate crossover section.

I hated December 31 starting around 6 or 7 when the place got so unbelievably crowded that I literally had a problem getting out of Babylon to go to Central World for the New Year's celebrations. It was cram-packed with wall-to-wall bodies (even though all areas of Babylon were opened up). All booths were occupied.

The other thing that always baffled me was all the hot young Thai who go with other Thai. Again, why are they going to Babylon, then Why not ? Is Babylon supposed to be inter-racial ? Or is every Thai expected to drop his pants and drool over you as soon as you make your entry ? ?

By the way, Babylon continues to jack up its prices. I think it was 380 baht on December 31.

The other weird thing is to see really hot young farangs, arabs, etc. pose forever in the hallways. I mean, why don't they just connect with some other hot guy? I suppose this is some weird gay mental thing they have to do.

Also, I don't understand why Babylon waits until later in the day to open up the other areas. Sometimes that little black cruising area upstairs (the Bruegel gallery) gets so cram-packed nobody can even walk in there.

My comments are given in good faith !

wantasian · #15 4th January 2011, 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by asiatraveler

Although I agree that younger locals are using the internet widely, I visited three other saunas (with mixed results) and can say that a considerable number of young locals continue to use saunas. There's something about the thrill of the chase, in a real time environment, that cannot be duplicated on line.

I don't understand the thrill of the chase in sauanas. Actually, I think it is a semi-mental-illness. If you go into Chakran, Farose II, or any other Thai-for-Thai sauna, it is almost all young, super-hot, Thai, and at some appointed time, a parade starts where everyone walks around forever, and then once in a while, some pair up and go into a room. Can someone explain why it takes a really hot young Thai so long to simply go in with another really hot young Thai? I mean, what is the mating process? Is this endless walking around some kind of endless mental osmosis matching process (like animals)? I just don't get it.

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