no. it may even be the parctice of some waiters and not universal.
but wathcing and counting change-if so inclined, is always a prudent thing in those bars-and not always easy either.

Dream Boys not so dreamy
 

Went to Dream Boys last night and despite the 50 or so gogo boys on display, there were better specimens amongst the audience than on the stage. First drinks at 330 baht and subsequent at 250, prices are now too high given the tired show with similar routines that have been a feature now for over 12 months. Still there was quite a crowd who seemed appreciative - must be newbies. Air conditioning is still too cold.

X-Size and X-Boys
 

Went to X-Size last night, stayed for a few minutes only despite many boys, but only average looking. Same as Dream Boys, i.e. quantity rather than quality. On the other hand X-Boys had a nice variety of boys and so I stayed for the show which was OK, but again badly needs some new ideas - the "cock hitting golf ball" routine is very stale now. As is the theme music - I wonder if they know it is the overture to "The Ten Commandments". The irony! Anyway, the show featured lots of large cock display and one couple f..king. The place was overcrowded and some people were smoking. Drinks are 250 baht. I offed a boy with a nice smile, who, although not overly handsome made up for it in bed ;)

I must agree with most of what the previous two post-ers wrote. For me, the "shows" have become tedious-to-laughable (the latter unintentionally i assume), and the guys range from somewhat attractive to, at best, "peculiar". I will, however not pay 250+THB for a small bottle of soda water so I just now pass these places by. I know and have heard many times the claim that the price of the drink is justified by the show, but true as that may be it just no longer works for me.

Don't jeer at me, but Nature Boy/Super A have been far far better for me this trip. While the decor may suffer from neglect, some staffpersons may be annoying and the bar etiquette different, I have met really nice guys there, had a good time, and leave without feeling ripped off. Works for me!

Agree 100%. At Super A I can buy drinks for myself and 3 or 4 friendly boys for Bt 500 - in Twighlight that wouldn't even cover buying one boy a drink and a chat. - and I prefer the intimate sleeze and individual comfy sofas of Super A to hard benches, pushy mamasans and arrogant guys . It's the last of the old style sleeze bars, with a choice of go go or street clothes boys - and its fun with cocks out and plenty of groping in the back row :) !

If rents in Silom / Surawong are driving out the cheap slut bars (like Solid and My Way, which were always farang oriented) - are there any other areas in BKK running similar venues for thais, or thai speaking farangs?

Not that I know of.

Rising rent did not force a closure of Solid. My Way went away (sorry) because the owner passed away (whoops did it again).

Check out the newest bar on the soi, under Super A, " Twinks Boys" it has lots of boys last week and then this Sat at midnight only 3? I was told a great flood of farangs just descended on the soi and off'ed every boy working--sure. Cum back tomorrow. The manager is Khun Bee, pretty nice guy, he left the Heart Beat Club to manage this new bar. There's no sign yet but is located right under Super A.

Is this the twinky massage joint converted or the old Lucky next door to it?

Yes, the ground floor of the massage venue. The rooms above are still there used as ST rooms. Facing the stairs up to Super A, it's one door to your right.

What is this bar like? Boys "dancing" in briefs on a stage or is it a "host bar" with boys in street clothes? Still mostly Laotian boys? BTW I agree about Super A....though the mamasan can be pushy at times the boys I offed there always were a nice experience. About My Way: I think I read on any forum that it still exists...will check out when in BKK in a few weeks and report then.

Its gone- even the old sign has now come down - "nothing of it doth remain , but has suffered a sea change.etc.." (with apologies to Bill Shakespeare)

It's basically go-go format. The boys are on a stage in underpants of sorts, shirtless, and there's lots of lights flashing and music playing. There's sofas facing the stage with tables. A small bar at the far end. Not a very big place. Not as hands on as Nature and Super A.

I don't have a clue about the boys nationalities.

Like I said, went in one night weekday and the place was fully staffed and then 3 days latter only 3 guys. Good luck hitting the right night and time.

Curiouser: Not sure what mamasan you're refering to a Super A or how long ago that was. There a new ladyboy person there now who's very low keyed and polite.

MY ... WAY - Rama IV.
 

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Its gone- even the old sign has now come down - ... . [quote]

-- Today afternoon I walked there to confirm: khun Biggles is quite correct - sign removed; door padlocked; uncollected mail stuffed into the door-handle: carts etc. stowed in its general & outside area.
- Ichabod.

It's the older, scary one that's been there for over 20 years that is the aggressive tip-beggar. She used to feature as the bottom back in the days when they had a sex show.