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Old 26th April 2010, 02:41 AM
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I doubt that any insurance company would issue insurance against civil insurrection, riots, and suchlike after the recent news. While Lloyd's would probably insure anything, it would probably be at an outrageously high price. It's probably better to self-insure. I've observed that English people love insurance (I never understood the assumption on Antiques Road Show that everyone would insure their things) but as an American, I think insurance is almost always a rip-off. I'd love to read about Thai culture, mentality, etc. about insurance.

Also, my thought upon first seeing the Bangkok Bank headquarters (on Silom Rd), was "wow--they sure knew how to set this building way back--and I'm amazed at all the open space on very expensive land in Bangkok." They sure thought out the possibility of riots, etc. I'm still amazed by the headquarters. I always wonder how they were able to buy all that land--the government probably helped with eminent domain. One time I was in there with a Thai friend and was impressed by their lobby, too.
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Old 26th April 2010, 06:05 AM
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-- Today, (26th.], evening - my tee rak being safely off & away en route to TRANG - soon after 18.oo.hrs. I walked from SILCOM. to the DUSIT THANI HTL's. corner, along Tnn. Rama IV. and along Tnn. S'wong..
- By AU BON PAIN, next to the DT., a gp. of possibly a couple of score demonstrators, waving Thai flags and using battery-powered loud-hailers, was assembled. I observed no riot-police openly deployed on that side of Tnn. Si Lom; however, on the former ROBINSON's side were some 40 or so riot-police looking quite relaxed, chatting quietly amongst themselves and not paying over-much att'n. to those opposite: either flag-wavers or red shirts.
- Along Tnn. Rama IV. most of the tables that were set-out were taken by happy eaters.
- The small riot-police piquet was still on duty o'side. JIM. THOMPSON.
- PP1. Night Mkt. CLOSED.
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Old 26th April 2010, 07:09 AM
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... . I'd love to read about Thai culture, mentality, etc. about insurance.
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-- It's 100%. for sure that I'm no expert on Thai culture as it affects insurance.
- All that I'll observe is that when I was living in MNL. I used to see a quotation from the Lord Buddha on one of the walls of an health-foods' shop: 'Fret not about yesterday, worry not about tomorrow, but live each moment of the present passionately and wisely.', or words to that effect.*
- I realize that one's avg. Thai boi is probably not the most reliable of indicators about how the avg. and better educated Thai person thinks, but, if they're any guide, taking precautions against the future is not part of their mentality. My enthusiastic and American friend knows a Thai man, probably early 30's. now, whose only accomplishments lie in his manhood & virility. Reportedly when asked about his future, after his powers will have declined, he merely shrugs his shoulders in a somewhat 'Que sera sera.' attitude; reportedly any thoughts of saving for his future don't seem to have entered his head. Sad, really.

--* As an aside, some Xtns. believe that during the period when the NT. makes no mention of Jesus' activities, (roughly between the ages of 12YO. and his late 20's?), He went to the East and studied there. It is interesting to compare the Lord Buddha's a/m observation with what Jesus is reported to have said along similar lines in Matt.VII:34., for example.
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Old 26th April 2010, 03:59 PM
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-- It's 100%. for sure that I'm no expert on Thai culture as it affects insurance.
- All that I'll observe is that when I was living in MNL. I used to see a quotation from the Lord Buddha on one of the walls of an health-foods' shop: 'Fret not about yesterday, worry not about tomorrow, but live each moment of the present passionately and wisely.', or words to that effect.*
- I realize that one's avg. Thai boi is probably not the most reliable of indicators about how the avg. and better educated Thai person thinks, but, if they're any guide, taking precautions against the future is not part of their mentality. My enthusiastic and American friend knows a Thai man, probably early 30's. now, whose only accomplishments lie in his manhood & virility. Reportedly when asked about his future, after his powers will have declined, he merely shrugs his shoulders in a somewhat 'Que sera sera.' attitude; reportedly any thoughts of saving for his future don't seem to have entered his head. Sad, really.

--* As an aside, some Xtns. believe that during the period when the NT. makes no mention of Jesus' activities, (roughly between the ages of 12YO. and his late 20's?), He went to the East and studied there. It is interesting to compare the Lord Buddha's a/m observation with what Jesus is reported to have said along similar lines in Matt.VII:34., for example.
I would say the Chinese in Thailand (who I heard own the whole country) are different from the native Thais.

I had a Thai bf whose mother is Chinese (refugee from China in her youth) (and whose father is at least part Chinese)--and raised to save money (money obsession). He said that he never knew a "native" Thai (non-Chinese descent) who had any kind of savings or bank-account mentality.

But I wonder if this responsibility tapers off with children, grandchildren, etc. of immigrant Chinese.

I'm amazed at all the unprotected anal sex in saunas in Bangkok (lack of care)--which includes cute Chinese guys.

This quote from "Siam" in 11th Ed. Encyclopaedia Britannica (1910) really makes a good observations:

"In disposition the Siamese are mild-mannered, patient, submissive to authority, kindly and hospitable to strangers. They are light-hearted, apathetic people, little given to quarrelling or to the commission of violent crime. Though able and intelligent cultivators they do not take kindly to any form of labour other than agricultural, with the result that most of the industries and trades of the country are in the hands of Chinese."
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Old 26th April 2010, 07:57 PM
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I'm amazed at all the unprotected anal sex in saunas in Bangkok (lack of care)--which includes cute Chinese guys.
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-- It's not only the 'Cute Ch. guys.' who enjoy unprotected sex; in BABYLON SAUNA I've seen plenty of mature farangs, who should know better, engage in unprotected sex with Thais.
- Last yr. there were a couple of mature, (phys., at least.), farangs, (one of whom was a European.), both well-known cruisers in SILCOM., who would pay their Thai sex companions only if the latter agreed to have unprotected sex, (I think that the farangs were offereing 300.Bh. for a 'short' time then?),.
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Old 27th April 2010, 12:21 AM
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-- Today, (27th.], I left SILCOM. just after 12.nn.; o'side. was a small gp. waving Thai & yellow flags and listening alternately to Thai musick and to some demagogue.
-- At the DUSIT THANI HTL's. corner no police seen stationed on the side-walk, although plenty inside in the grounds; on the opp. side, o'side. the former ROBINSON's, some dozen or so riot police. Not so much noise from the red shirts' encampment nearby.
- However, plenty of both mil'y. & riot police seen along Tnn. S'wong. from Tnn. Rama IV. to P Pong 1.; many of the mil'y. had magazines clipped into their fire-arms, also a good few with grenades strapped to their webbing; a much MORE purposeful attitude than that along Tnn. Si Lom. By WALL ST. TOWER a gp. of soldiers was seen giving one of their 1Ox1O. army trucks - made in America - laden with orange colored barricades that can be filled with water, a push-start!
- At P. Pong 1 the various barricades had been removed from across the Tnn. and stacked ready for deployment along the side-walks.
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Old 27th April 2010, 06:24 AM
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- Today, (27th.), evening along Tnn. Si Lom many, but not all, of the poor but honest side-walk vendors were setting-out their stalls; P. PONG 1's NIGHT MKT. was OPEN for business, too.
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Old 28th April 2010, 05:46 AM
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... . I'd love to read about Thai culture, mentality, etc. about insurance.
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-- Today,(28th.), I chatted again with the lady about ins'ce. here in TH., (she has worked for both Siam Comm'l. Bk. and for NY. Life Ins'ce. - for the latter as a directrix.),.

-- Basically the older gener'n. of Thais, unless they're well enough educated and have money to spare, do not believe in ins'ce.. 'Why spend money for something - such as illness - that might never happen?'.
- The middle gener'n. will insure if they have to: the banks mandate ins'ce. as a condition of obtaining loans: home, educ'n., car, or other forms of pers. tpt. etc. etc..
- Many condo's., gated communities and suchlike either have blanket ins'ce. or else require members to take-out their own ins'ce..
- The younger gener'n. are MORE conscious of ins'ce., and are targeted by ins'ce. co's. to buy Life Ins'ce. as a basic minimum - 'Better to invest one's savings in one's own life ins'ce. than in a bank.',
is their theme.
-- I suspect that the good lady's obs'vns. apply to the class of people with whom she dealt: the better educated and more monied persons than the avg. and more workaday manual workers who make-up the bulk of BKK's. population.
-- E&OE., as mainly reported speech. --
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Old 28th April 2010, 05:58 AM
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-- Today, (28th.), I walked to SILCOM. about mid-a'noon.; many MORE riot-clad police de-busing and taking-up pos'ns. along Tnn. Si Lom. Contrariwaise many of the mil'y. appeared to be quite relaxed and didn't look too concerned.
-- I left SILCOM. just before 18.oo.hrs., and observed many MORE riot-police along Tnn. Si Lom and in P. Pong 2.; this time the tps. seemed to be much MORE on the alert.
- Along most of Tnn. Si Lom the side-walk vendors were setting-out their stalls; however, in P. Pong 1 the stalls etc. were in place but no effort was being made to OPEN the steel boxes of goods for sale; the same was generally true along Tnn. S'wong..

-- I've just heard on the BBC's. Radio 3 news' summary, (12.oo.hrs. GMT.), that one Thai soldier has been shot dead - thoughts are that, (the confusion and the 'Fog of war.'), it might have been a police bullet? :-(
- The Foreign Office has issued another one of its Travel Advisories to British Nationals.
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Old 28th April 2010, 10:46 AM
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The current political situation

For a much more comprehensive coverage, suggest members go to thaivisa.com/forum then Thaliland news clippings and/or general topics. Currently they have a continuously updated daily thread.
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[QUOTE = Xfun; 677003].
**For a much more comprehensive coverage, suggest members go to thaivisa.com / forum then Thaliland news clippings and / or general topics. Currently they have a continuously updated daily thread. [/ QUOTE].

-- I shall be enjoying some R&R. away from BKK. during the Labor day w/e., so shall leave readers to enjoy the a/m. recommendation.
- I believe that > Thaivisa.com - Home < is part of The Nation gp., isn't it? (Query: 'How impartial is The Nation gp.?' - Printer's Devil.),.
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Old 29th April 2010, 03:48 AM
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What I would like to know is are the gay go-go bars off Surrowong road (e.g. Classic Boys, X-boys, etc.) open or not? Plan to come back to Thailand mid May, but not to Bangkok if the gay scene is dead.
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Old 29th April 2010, 04:15 AM
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Open.

I expect it would take a rather large nuclear detonation for the gay scene to be "dead" in Bangkok.
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What I would like to know is are the gay go-go bars off Surrowong road, (e.g. Classic Boys, X-boys, etc.), open or not? ... . [quote]

-- Today, (28th.), I walked-through Soi Twilight, (off Suriwong rd.), at approx. 18.30.hrs..
- As far as I could see all of the bars, clubs, entertainment places, massage parlors, pool bars etc. etc. were either OPEN already or their opening was getting under way.
- But between now and yr. ETA., (a couple of weeks.), is - like 'A week in politics.' - a long time ... ?
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Old 28th April 2010, 10:56 AM
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Should also note that:

- Insurance is still in it's infancy in Thailand and is quite immature in terms of knowledge of the concept, coverage, products, taxation implications (where applicable) and overall professionalism
- Overall, a quite small percentage of the total Thai population can afford life and or health insurance (too busy surviving day by day to even think about the future)
- Insurance scams abound, health insurance is one example (forcing up premiums)
- Many Thais don't trust insurance companies for good reasons and same goes for insurance agents, and I know this one because of two incidents in my one step away Thai family
- I have contents insurance on my condo, a JV of a well known UK based company and a local company. A fire in a close room did a lot of smoke damage to my condo, local office of insurance company tried every angle possible to avoid payout as per the policy.
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