Another scam artist on Gayromeo
 

A few weeks ago I was contacted by a guy who calls himself newinbkk2010 on Gayromeo. He comes from Chiang Mai but has been in Bangkok for some time. He was down to his last 80 baht and needed money urgently. He agreed to meet in a few days and I could pay him the rest of his fee. It wasnt a great deal of money but I always fancied the guy and thought it was worth the risk. Well needless to say he didnt bother to meet and then blocked me on gayromeo. I am just posting this as a warning should he try the scam again, as I said the money was no great loss but beyond me why he bothered for such a small amount when he could have earned a lot more.

Your first clue should have been his description of his rather average cock as "XL". LOL.

He did have pictures showing face and full body so I don't think there is any doubt he is well endowed. I just know he would have got a lot more out of me as a friend rather than the pittance he scammed from me.

There is still a cock pic, but no way is it "XL" as described.
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PS: never, ever respond to requests for money in advance. I thought that would have been a given...
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It's not something I normally do but given what he was asking for I thought it was worth the risk as he would have got a lot more had he turned up for a date.

Hmmmm , strange - he has 8 recent positive / enthousiastic comments in his guest book and no negatives. Maybe he just didnt fancy you - which would not excuse, but could explain !

-- Possibly what our dear medical colleagues would call: 'False positives.'?
- Personally I'm always MORE than happy to receive a NEGATIVE reply from such people! :)

Well I might agree with that had we met or he had ever seen me or pictures of me but I just got this desperate plea for some help and taking into account that the remarks in his guest book were positive I thought I was dealing with a genuine guy. Maybe others have not parted with their money until they had received some service for which they were then prepared to pay some money for.

I lived in BKK for several months 2ys ago and had a GR account then. Got messaged buy a 22y old guy, university degree, great English and worked for a BKK law firm. We chatted when still in Europe and finally met in BKK. He said he was into mature Caucasians and had had a longer relationship before. Now he d just be into 1night stands but I was "different" and he would like to have a real relationship with me. We met several times for dinner in a Thai restaurant and later for cinema. Once a week, no sex, because he was not "ready" yet. I accepted but after one month he chose a quite expensive restaurant before cinema and this time I decided to stop and pretended to have headaches after dinner bec. I felt "used". He sent me several mails when I did not pick up the phone. "Drama nit noi". I told him about my point of view and he said I was wrong and he would have come to my room next time. When I answered and said I d agree he said he was too busy at the moment working on his thesis. Never met or heard again. He still has is account on GR (send PM for name) and is online every day. I am curious how this story possibly would have ended. He NEVER asked for any money and seemed to come from a wealthy family. Maybe somebody on this board can share similar experiences.

Personally, I think you blew it.

The kid probably WAS from a rich family. He probably always had everything he wanted and needed, and therefore the cost of a restaurant probably never crossed his mind.

You should have simply said that the place he suggested was a bit expensive for your budget and suggested another.

Sounds like you missed out on a rare opportunity to form a relationship with a well-educated, well-off Thai guy.
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Actually we were at this restaurant and I would not have minded to go there or to a similar place again, but after meeting several times I felt like being a godfather who just takes out his boy for great dinners and sees a movie later....Pity, because I was about to like him "mak, mak"

I had a three month affair with someone similar. He was an attractive city boy, university educated, regular job, spoke good English, etc. The trouble was he was very self centred and always wanted me to focus on meeting his desires in bed rather than satisfying mine. I decided to end it and subsequently found someone else, an attractive country boy: uneducated, poor, casually employed, very little English, etc. But he was keen to satisfy me in every regard. He didn't ask for money, but I offered it because I could see he needed a little financial help. I doubted his motivations for a long time, but now, almost 2 years later we are still together, he works hard in his own business and is less financially reliant on me. The lesson of course is that successful relationships are a two way street requiring each party to meet the needs of the other. As a footnote, what I have discovered about the differing attitudes of the boys in these cases is almost a metaphor for the city/country social divide one observes in Thailand.

It may have been true in your case, but I've slept through all classes and I have not found any correlation between socio-economic class status and willingness to please a partner in bed.

Selfish sex partners exist equally in every group.

Around 1995-1996, I had a Thai boyfriend for 5 months here in the U.S. (MBA student) who was from a rich Chiang Mai Chinese family. He needed a lot of emotional attention. One time he borrowed some money, and made some odd comment when I asked for repayment (he did pay it back). He had his own car and apartment here.

I then had extreme stress and overwork due to a crisis in my job (an emergency requiring a lot of work) and told him that I was having big work problems and could not give him the attention he wanted, and it was okay for him to see someone else if he wanted. He immdiately met another (older) farang, and proceeded to use this guy to no end. (By this time, he got his MBA and had no further reason to get money from his parents.) They eventually moved back to Bangkok together (the farang quit everything here and sold everything) and I think the Thai guy drained the American financially.

I don't think a rich Thai can necessarily simply go to his family and get money. This Chiang Mai guy told me that if he relied on his family and moved back to Bangkok, his brother (who would be a student) would have to live with him, and he didn't want that. I could also hear him on the phone with his mother, and she would make these squealing sounds when he asked for any money to be wired.

Don't assume that these people are getting money from their families. Also, there might be conditions, and they don't want to have to explain things to their families.

newinbkk2010
 

I see newinbkk2010 has been up to his light fingered tricks with another user on GayRomeo. He has created the newinbkk2011 user to warn others.

I tried searching for newinbkk2011 on gayromeo and didn't find any results.

I did find newinbkk2010 on gayromeo--looks like a cute little femmy twinky guy--but not my type anyway.

I don't understand how you got the 80 baht to him without meeting him. Did you mail it to him? Odd. And only 80 baht? Strange.

I don't understand how you got the 80 baht to him without meeting him. Did you mail it to him? Odd. And only 80 baht? Strange--just some cute femmy guy asking everyone for money--what do you expect?

NewinBkk2011
 

The profile No is Profile No. 7777781 but it is now waiting to be validated, yesterday it had all his pictures on it. Where did you get the 80 baht from? It was a bit more than that. I have chatted with the guy a couple of times and he seemed to have good reports so I transferred it via the ATM to his account not something I normally do but I made an exception for him. The money will not be missed but I thought I would warn others and from what the other user says he enjoys going through your pockets if he gets the chance.

The user use_pass received a nice guestbook entry today as well, have a look... Seems credible, but on the other hand, someone who's pissed with one of his GayRomeo contacts might also make something like that up to discredit the guy. And to keep others away, jealousy plays strange games with many minds... ;-)

NewinBkk2010
 

I notice that the user Newinbkk2010 has in fact disabled his guest book so that in itself speaks volumes. I can only speak for myself, he sounded quite desperate when he asked me to help him out, down to his last 80 baht so as he had received several positive comments and it wasnt a lot he was asking for I did so. He then blocked me. I have never met the guy so all I can do is confirm what happened to me.

Interesting! A couple of weeks ago I chatted to this guy (use_pass) on GayRomeo and exchanged numbers but didn't arrange to meet. Later in the week I got a text from a guy asking me to ring him concerning use_pass. I found myself talking to an American guy who had just met him and had some money stolen. As use-pass was hurriedly leaving his room he dropped a piece of paper with my name and number and those of a couple of other guys.

It was good of the American guy to take the trouble to warn me. Apparently use_pass hangs around The Malaysia Hotel quite a lot.

I lock up everything of value even if I'm just taking a shower. But I don't usually lock up my phone or netbook. I had one guy say he wanted to stay in my room while I went out (he claimed he was tired). Did "use-pass" rip the guy off and run while the guy was in the shower? I think guys have probably gone through my pockets, etc. while I've been in the shower (I take long showers)--but I've never had anything stolen (because the paper money is in the safe).

By the way, I love Pinnacle Hotel because they have in-room safes. I don't think Malaysia Hotel has any in-room safes--so maybe that's why "use-pass" likes hanging around there.

I guess he likes hanging around there because it's a well-known pick-up spot for freelance moneyboys. Many but not all of their customers stay at Malaysia hotel.

I don't think he steals in Malaysia Hotel. A visitor can't get in unless they leave their i.d., and the hotel calls the room before the guy leaves to make sure everything is okay. Although Pinnacle Hotel has in-room safes, they don't seem to even look who comes and goes--but I prefer it that way.

On this matter of IN-Room safes -v.- safes at Recept'n. a gweilo friend who visits BKK. from time-to-time, and who used to stay at the PINNACLE HTL., pointed-out that with an IN-Room safe all yr. companion has to do is to produce a knife, or similar, and then invite you to OPEN the safe ... . :mad:

Before I go up to the room with a questionable boy I put his ID in a safe deposit box at reception. Then he knows I am the only person who can retrieve it.

-- Good idea.
- Now let's see who can play Advocatus diaboli - khun Wantasian, possibly? ;-) - and find holes in that!
-- :)

It might not even be his ID card, or a real one. And the jackpot he lifts from your room might be worth more than the card. ID cards can be replaced in about five minutes at any district office.

-- For a casual and OFF-the-street pick-up handing-in the young man's ID. to Recept'n. would be valueless.
- I u'stand., from other sources, that it is not too difficult to obtain a false & Thai ID.; I've heard of Khao San rd. being mentioned in that respect.
- Possibly taking-out with one no more money than one is prepared to lose, leaving in one's own appt./room one's Credit Card, other valuables etc. and availing of an Hawng chua krao, (short-time room.), is about as safe as one can go?

-- :)

They do not sell fake Thai ID's in Khaosan Road.

They sell fake student cards, press cards, diplomas, and other "souvenir" items (quite low-quality ones, as well).

Fake ID cards are much more serious business, and not THAT easily obtained.

-- Thank you for your corr'n.. :)

You don't even need to have him put his ID in a box at reception. In Pinnacle, you just have him leave his i.d. with the reception (or otherwise register with them). I never did that, but if it was someone my instinct told me to be careful about, I would.

I don't want to sound naive, but has anyone ever heard of any Thai guy ever robbing a farang in his hotel room with a knife? I tend to doubt--at least with the kinds of guys we take to our rooms--that this happens. Even if a guy produced a knife, I think I would call his bluff and he would leave quickly, with nothing. I know--easy for me to talk--but if this is just a 1 in 100,000 chance, then I'm not worrying about losing some cash.

No, but the world is changing and unfortunately getting more violent. Many of us remember a young thai guy from BKK (Cent) who took a boy from Pattaya back to his room near Malaysia hotel and had his throat cut for a few pieces of gold jewelery. I learned my lesson when a Pattaya boy had I taken many times over about 6 months suddenly turned ferel and stole my Blackberry while I was in the shower. It's the only bad experience I've had in 20 years. I think caution is the word.

Or that young handsome German guy a couple of years back near Ramkhamhaeng who took someone back to his room and got clobbered with his own weightlifting gear. As far as I know they never found the killer.

There have been a handful of murders (perhaps a half dozen?) of customers by gay sex workers that I can recall over the past 20 years. Predominantly Thai victims.

There is a very low likelihood of coming to physical harm -- but one which increases if you like rough trade from the street.

Caution is always the best policy.

As for theft, the best policy is not to present your new friend with any temptation.

“It might not even be his ID”

That is true. You should ask the lad his birthday before you ask for his ID. If they don’t match, it isn’t his.

“ID cards can be replaced in about five minutes at any district office."

They can if they are one of the newer sort with the electronic chip. If not the lad must return to his home for a replacement.

Obtaining a replacement isn’t the point. The point is that the boy knows when they find your body in the room his identity will be known.

“I don't want to sound naive, but has anyone ever heard of any Thai guy ever robbing a farang in his hotel room with a knife?”

Yes. It happened to me in my condo.

When a boy grabs you from behind and holds a sharp knife at your throat you can become very cooperative.

I know of no foolproof method of guaranteeing one’s safety. If anyone does I would surely like to learn it.