I guess the reality is that while a lot of bars have closed, and there are a lot less underage boys in the area than before, they are still there if you want to find them (as they are in BKK.) Good Boys is notorious, but I believe most of the other blatant offenders have closed (Kaos, Sundance, Euro, Jummy James, Tom Yum etc.) In the last 12 months I've never had a hint of underage at Happy, Wonderland (closed thro drugs), Eros or Krazy Dragon and that only leaves Mics and Nice Boys, which are probably borderline at best !

The many beer bars appear to have legal boys, although I'm not sure if to work in those 18 or 20 is the min age.

As for the European Square thing, I started that just to make a point that the area is changing - the new beer bars are quite smartly designed and equiped - and the area in front of Don Plaza could have a European feel if you half close your eyes and force down a Campari or sweet Vermouth. (Dont take me too seriously guys - just trying to get the board rocking :)

Really? Where exactly on line...Cheers

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You are entitled to your opinion but not your own facts. You walked through Sunee and saw a lot of kids. I walked through Central Mall yesterday and saw lots of kids. That does not meany what you are trying to say.

The facts are which are agreed by every other poster here except you and Icon is that Sunee is MUCH improved. The underage Bars are gone except for one and money is being spent everywhere improving many of the bars.

Does that mean an occasional 16 or 17 year old might not be found in a bar. Absolutely not, just like they can be found in any other area of Thailand with Gay or Lady Bars.

What it means is that not so long ago many bars had routinely had 16 year olds and younger on offer. That is no longer the case.

And until you and Icon admit the vast improvement your opinions are worthless and in fact encourage the pedophiles to come to Sunee because the two of you keep yelling that it is full of KIDS

You are both Wrong and I will continue to point it out every time one of you makes a ridiculous statement like.

"I walk through SUNEE, and I see underage boys everywhere"

Yawwwwwwwwwn.

Jou are a joke as a Poster and as a Moderator

I have to agree that I too have the impression that Icon seems to have a rather short fuse these days. But well.

As for Sunee. You cannot compare Central and Sunee, that's like apples and oranges. One is a shopping mall, happily frequented by most Thais. Sunee is an open air boy bordello, carefully avoided by most Thais.

Do you have a financial stake in Sunee somehow, Firecat? Otherwise, I cannot imagine why you would be blowing such a gasket.

I readily admit that my opinion was based on a visit six months ago. The opinions of those who have been there more recently should undeniably take precedence.

I will visit again soon, and sincerely hope you are correct about the area being cleared of prepubescent rent boys, glue sniffers, delinquents, and chicken hawking old men.

And Donatella, yes you have probably picked up on the fact that this forum doesn't really interest me much anymore. I will probably ask Keith to retire my log-in soon.

I have to report - Tom Yam has re-opened ! Assume same agenda as before - certainly I saw a few mature farangs going up the stairs :(

( I didn't go in so cant report further.)

What's that old French saying? Le plus ca change...something like that?
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Icon: No doubt you have the right for your own opininion. But you are certainly not acting as a moderator (not only in this thread) and you should change your title.

Being a moderator does not mean I can't voice a personal opinion.

And no moderation in this thread has been necessary so far.
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Theoretically, Icon513 could be fishing for compliments and I could be rising to the bait. Still:

Yes, he has a shorter fuse lately, and if he totally loses interest and retires, he has a perfect right to. After all, no one's paying him.

But, despite occasional disagreement, I like his concise, direct, and knowledgeable posts. They often clear things up for someone like me who doesn't live in Thailand and still has something to learn about it. I hope they continue, as moderator or not.

Much of the criticism of him is quite over the top. (And I hope none of mine is.)

"Plus ca change .. plus c'est la meme chose" Roughly translated, nothing ever really changes !

We love you really Icon - even when you're on the rag :) (translation available if required !)