Icon, i think same you about the other saunas. I am not young but not ugly and in-shape and sometimes I am lucky in the Chakran, Beach, Heaven Saunas. But sometimes not and this is no problem for me because I know the difference to the babylon. But befor the Obelisk Sauna for me was better then Chakran, everytime I had a good time with thaiman. Where are going the customers from the Obelisk now?