On one visit to Senso I gave a minimum 1000bht tip to a young man who could have done better in the customer service attitude department.Very good masseur but tried time wasting tricks...taking two pees,showering ahead of me for a long time after early conclusion and a generally "don't want to be there" sulky attitude.

Normally I am generous - sometimes extremely so -and not demanding but couldn't let this pass.Otherwise there is no standard.There was no friction over the basic tip.

Conversely,once at Andy's Man,the sex was fantastic,massage perfunctory and time total only 30mins or so.Gave the worker 1000baht and he couldn't have been more pleased.

All other visits by myself and friend have been first-rate,satisfaction provided.Even this dud was skilled with the hands.But then I could have gone to Ban Tewa or one of those more coy places.

So 1000 was acceptable in November.

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I'm with you there, brief encounter. If service is not satisfactory, minimum tips (or if minimum not stated beforehand, 900 to 1000 baht) is all they deserve. The problem, as Sextile is pointing out, is that establishments may begin to raise their minimum tips, and we should be alert to this and report here accordingly.

As for Senso, I wasn't overwhelmed on my one visit. Sure, their decor is nice, their location convenient, their boys' looks to my taste (though necessarily not everyone's).... but in the end, it's the service that counts.

I think massage establishments have a honeymoon period. At first everybody's gushing about a place when it's new and somebody reports glowingly. But after a while, a consensus develops whether it is any better than the rest. That consensus they should be able to see themselves on their bottom line.

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