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CRUISING for SEX - View Single Post - Safe Group Sex and Barebacking?
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Old 6th May 2001, 06:09 AM
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blackguy469 wrote:

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Too much preaching...don't we have enough of that from the religious right and other less-enlightened forces?
The main problem I see is that these people are a bit "thick" and refuse to understand my proposal. Although the subject heading mentions "barebacking" (catchy title!), its objective goes beyond that purpose. I repeat, for the third time? This system would replace the paper certificate by an online/telephone inquiry system. Therefore, it can have a wide range of clientele.

It could be a woman who has met a man but she is afraid of AIDS; at the clinic she learns that there are more diseases to be worried about. Both register in the program, they do a 6-month waiting period. During this time both are interviewed separately and take a battery of tests, from medical examination to HIV.

Another client could also be a married man who wants to find one or more men in his situation to "play" with. But who is petrified of even "crabs" because of his wife. The problem with these men is that they either try to suppress their feelings for other men's bodies, or one night drunk he stops at a cruising spot and gets sucked off or fucked with no protection at all. A no win situation for these men.

Last but not least, men who need to satisfy fetishes that require unsafe sexual practices. These include barebacking, swallowing cum, fist-fucking to name a few. Men would register individually and go through the 6-months period. As all other members of this system, during this time they would be interviewed and tests conducted. Potentially, several members can get together an participate in group sex and whatever activity they may want.

Pornsizedguy wrote:

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I am a gay man simply looking to have safe fun with other like minded men.
The problem, pornsizedguy, is that you may one day change and feel the need for raw sex. Sexual scripts are known to change. One day you may find joining this program (-:

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And I seriously doubt that any of you "straight" guys for one minute would defend a gay men being beat up on the street, even if it was the same idiot who let you fuck him raw.
I wonder why self-victimization scripts are so popular with gay men? Why don't we look at this issue as "men will be men?" Forget about the gay part. If women went out at night to public parks looking for sex, "straight" men would love it. Men are men, but in an all-male environment men go wild (wars, hazing, and of course sex)

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You only see us gay men as a place to dump your load and serve your needs.
Sorry, but I think that's your fantasy.

Then blackguy469 writes:

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Men will be men...and we must treat them as intelligent creatures who can make their own choices, given the information presented to them....
Maybe in the future, once men are allowed to freely enjoy their bodies, including the cock, men won't need impersonal sex to the same extent men need it now.

There are two aspects to this issue, the issue of male-shame. Because of shame, males perceive a distorted view of what erotic arousal and sex are. It becomes easily associated with sin (i.e. the Original Sin). Therefore, one issue is to deal with the men at the present time and who received little support during adolescence, while at the same time, work to change the way we bring up boys.

My proposal deals only with trying to patch things up for those men who want to do something about their unmet needs about the male body.

TheSexWizard