This has been a useful discussion for me. I recently purchased some non-lubricated condoms that supposedly are for oral sex. Some have flavors and most are thin. I also bought dental dams because I am bi. Unfortunately, an opportuntity to use them has not happened. I am hoping they are acceptable as I want to suck and be sucked instead of always having JO. One problem I have and I understand is the reason AIDS is still rising among older men is that I and my partners cannot get hard enough for condoms. Sucking can be very good even with a not so hard cock which is one reason it is so popular with older guys and with those who like multiple sex,but the downside seems to be that without the condom there is a lot more risk. Any comments?