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Old 21st August 2015, 09:24 AM
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Liberation and Assimilation, Sexual Edition

Yesterday our local LGBT Center posted a link to a follow-up interview with Noah Michelson, the author of this Huffington Post piece. I had missed his original article I'm A Gay Man Who Loves Sex (And Here's Why That's Suddenly A Problem)*|*Noah Michelson which I thought a lot of folks here would find interesting.

Here's an excerpt. I'll reserve comment for now and let you all discuss amongst yourselves:

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Oh the hours -- the afternoons! The days! The weekends! -- I have spent looking for and having sex. And oh the incomparable joy it's brought me!

But you're not really that shocked, are you? Of course you're not. After all, gay men have always had a bit of a reputation when it comes to sex. And why not? Unbridled by the restraints of "traditional" relationships and (until very recently) solely straight institutions like marriage and the nuclear family, we've long enjoyed the pursuit of sexual relations whenever, wherever, however and with whomever we could get our sweaty gay mitts on.

Even in the face of AIDS, which has ravaged our community and caused so many gay men -- myself included -- to tragically equate sex with death, we didn't stop looking for opportunities to get off, we just found ways to do it more safely.

No, pleasure has never been a dirty word for us, though many of our straight counterparts (who are, let's admit, equally interested in the same wondrous carnal arts but, thanks to our society's sturdy puritan mores, remain unable or forbidden to indulge in them or at the very least admit they secretly do indulge in them) may wish it otherwise.

And in some ways, I'm actually fine with that. As much as I want straights to join us in ushering in a brave new age of sexual liberation, I understand that change takes time and that thanks to a whole bunch of heady terms (think: religion, sexism, patriarchy) it's not as easy for them to partake in sex the way that gay men historically have.

But you know what I can't understand, and furthermore, won't stand for? Other gays playing sex police -- and it's starting to happen more and more.

Example A: A New York Times article entitled "Chelsea's Risque Businesses" from earlier this year, which highlights a number of gay parents living in what is perhaps one of the most famously gay neighborhoods in the world and who are now lamenting the fact that their children have to grow up just feet away from sex shops.

Some in the article worry about the storefronts' mannequins with their "bulging crotches," condoms strewn across the neighborhood's sidewalks and the daunting task of having to explain ads for a lubricant called "Boy Butter" to their kids. But here's a radical idea: How about instead of demonizing sex and the people who are looking for it and having it, we demonize our society that labels the sight of a bulging crotch (plastic or otherwise) as indecent and embarrassing and threatening. And, if you'll permit me just one more humble suggestion, how about we tell our kids exactly what Boy Butter is and why it exists and stop acting like it's something to be ashamed of? (I'll save my full rant about sex education for another time.)

Now that we can get married and queer people having children is becoming more and more accepted, it seems we've forgotten that sexual liberation has always been, in my mind at least, a cornerstone of queer liberation. And it seems some queers think we've just been having all of this sex and pushing back against all of these sexual boundaries for all of these years as just another way to pass the time until we could become just like straight people. Like, "Hmm. We can't get married yet. What should we do in the meantime? Needlepoint? Nah. Competitive baking? No. Oh, I've got it! Let's get off!"

As if the New York Times article isn't bad enough, earlier this week, in an op-ed for Elite Daily, Thomas Caramanno felt compelled to rail against "certain gay men who objectify other men and change sex partners as frequently as their 2(x)ist underwear" and who are giving a bad name to the gay men who "are currently in, or are actively pursuing, romantic relationships, [and] revere notions of monogamy and family." (more...)
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Old 23rd August 2015, 12:21 AM
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>>>Example A: A New York Times article entitled "Chelsea's Risque Businesses" from earlier this year, which highlights a number of gay parents living in what is perhaps one of the most famously gay neighborhoods in the world and who are now lamenting the fact that their children have to grow up just feet away from sex shops.

Some in the article worry about the storefronts' mannequins with their "bulging crotches," condoms strewn across the neighborhood's sidewalks and the daunting task of having to explain ads for a lubricant called "Boy Butter" to their kids. But here's a radical idea: How about instead of demonizing sex and the people who are looking for it and having it, we demonize our society that labels the sight of a bulging crotch (plastic or otherwise) as indecent and embarrassing and threatening. And, if you'll permit me just one more humble suggestion, how about we tell our kids exactly what Boy Butter is and why it exists and stop acting like it's something to be ashamed of? (I'll save my full rant about sex education for another time.)<<<
Before moving into any neighborhood, you gather the basic facts, and walk the few blocks, too. So, you realize that there are too many sex shops for you feel comfortable raising your children around? Well, you look somewhere else. It will take a very long time for the established residents to change their ways for the benefits of the newcomers. We may be talking a generation or two? So, why move-in the first place?

Nope, you cannot explain your 6-7-8 year old what the Boy Butter is. Not because you or anyone else is ashamed of it but mostly because the kid is probably too young to understand the basic premises of human sexuality. What feels and looks like perfectly simple and natural to the adults may be an overwhelming experience to a 6 year old, first grader guy.



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As if the New York Times article isn't bad enough, earlier this week, in an op-ed for Elite Daily, Thomas Caramanno felt compelled to rail against "certain gay men who objectify other men and change sex partners as frequently as their 2(x)ist underwear" and who are giving a bad name to the gay men who "are currently in, or are actively pursuing, romantic relationships, [and] revere notions of monogamy and family." (more...)
Freedom of expression allows uninformed individuals to share their well, uninformed views. This is how freedom generally functions. Not very good. Only no one around knows of any better way of doing it.

The news that some men objectify other men, and change their partners, probably even more often their underwear (2xIst or Fruit of the Loom) is as new as the Fall of the Western Roman Empire in 476. It is news alright. Juxtaposing this well known fact with the notion that some gay men choose to actively pursue romantic relationships, seek monogamous relationships or want to start their own families only shows that the author of the article happens to be as clueless as someone who is comparing the proverbial apples with the equally proverbial oranges.

Unlike their str8 counterparts, gay men have always had, (and still do) the option of hitting the neighboring cruising park/backroom/spa/rest station/tearoom, etc., whipping out whatever equipment they have between their legs, and the chances are that a willing mate out there will help them get their rocks off.

Remember the saying that if there was a park where women were giving free BJs to the guys who'd be walking around, they'd have to build a highway exit to that place?

So, like it or not, gay men objectify their sexual partners. We have anonymous sex with other guys who we do not know, and who, we probably, even do not want to know. And, we do it for the simplest of all the reasons in the world: because we can.

Our evolutionary wiring allows males to see any sexual intercourse as an extremely low cost-high pleasure experience in evolutionary terms. Say, a few minutes later, a dude has shot his load, and is good to go. After a relatively short recovery phase, he is good to shoot again, and get going. The evolutionary cost of a sexual intercourse for the female is very high: nine months of pregnancy, raising the offspring, etc.

Hence, the gay men have a choice or doing it fast and furious, and on the cheap, if you will, (in evolutionary sense), or doing it after the candlelight dinners, courtship, exchange of gifts, etc.. Our str8 counterparts face a very different set of choices. It's either your right (or left) hand, or possibly expensive and embarrassing sex4money, or the courtship business with all its unknowns.

Now, no one has ever said that the world was ruled by the laws of universal fairness. This is where the str8 majority looks, feels and IS actually disenfranchised, and moaning about it won't really help.

The gay dudes will continue to hook up for the casual, NSA, perfectly anonymous sex, no matter what the editor of any newspaper anywhere in the world writes.

And the str8 GFs will want dinners, gifts, romantic evenings, serious promises, etc., before they put out!

KD
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