what's the deal with sathorn soi 1 and money boy?

That's not fair, Icon. I live on Sathorn Soi 1 and I'm not a moneyboy! Although many guys seem to think I live in Babylon when I mention my location. :-)

Every young Thai guy I've ever met living in Sathorn Soi 1 has been a money boy. There's little reason for a young Thai guy, especially an unemployed one or a "student" to live in this area other than to be close to farang Thai tourists. There are entire blocks of cheap flats deep in the Soi that are virtually full of money boys and money girls who ply their trade in the Patpong area.
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As an annual visitor to Thailand I, like many on this board use on line social networking sites to meet Thai guys. I'm sure everyone is aware of the health risks associated with casual sex, particularly casual anal sex. I'm not seeking to go into that stuff here but I am aware an ex b/f (Thai) is actively seeking GWM on a certain gay networking site with a view to having unprotected sex. His profile says he's a top seeking a bottom but nowhere does he list his HIV status which is HIV+ so just bear in mind the high incidence of such nasties in Thailand....
As they say: "Cover your stump before you hump!"
I'm not seeking to reveal his identity or the website. We are still quite good friends....just haven't been bedmates for MANY years (despite his requests!)

In BKK last night I logged onto Romeo. Within 5 mins I had 3 approaches from guys in the 20 to 30 range. I've no doubt 2 /3 were money boys, but I replied to No 3 and asked if he was. His reply was instant and to the point. "You should not say that. I have full time job as graphic designer but prefer older farang. " Despite his topless pic and some tattoes, dont pre-judge them all as I have met several very nice genuine guys on-line (including one civil servant who lived in a Sathorn Soi and owned his own apartment.)

Yes, I meant if they say they are unemployed or a "student" and living in Sathorn Soi 1, that is not a good sign. There are some very wealthy Thai people living in that soi as well.

I don't know if I'm really stupid, but where is Sathorn soi 1? I can't find it on a map, either. Is that near Babylon? I never noticed anyone who claims to live around there.

What I don't understand is, I've met some guys who fit some of the above, and we connected and everything was great, but I always wondered afterward if they were really expecting money. They never brought up the subject. This happens a lot. But I always give the guy some money (like 200 or even 500 baht if they live near airport, etc.) if he has to come to see me (to cover any possible expenses) and they never refuse. But often there just seems to be just a little something "wrong" afterward when I continue to communicate with them. But they usually do see me again if I want them on my next trip. By the way, it seems that almost all guys are "students" or don't work--but most give no indications of being money boys.

But I agree, obviously if they say they want someone to take care of them, or they have a hot photo, or they're over-eager to meet me, then I know it's for money. But I did connect with some over-eager guys and everything was very good. I think many of the over-eager ones learned that they have to be that way, otherwise other Thai get the farangs first.

Okay--I'll break down and give the site where I think it's higher-quality Thai guys. Thailovelinks.com But too many seem to be students or have no job, and some even put in their profiles that they want someone to take care of them. So maybe I'll have a lot of money boys in disguise when I actually try to meet them on my upcoming trip. But I've tried to eliminate all those from my list. Beware that you can't communicate with anyone on thailovelinks unless you pay for membership. I did 3-month at $20 a month. It seems that almost nobody on there has a paid subscription (but that does not matter if I have paid subscription). I get hit on all the time--mostly from guys outside Bangkok. Also, a lot of women (even though my profile says man for man, and I also say I'm only interested in someone in Bangkok area). There are a lot of things I don't like about that site (search methods make no sense, difficult to search like on other sites, etc.). And it's hard to figure out how the site works (options, etc.). Like I just figured out by accident that one can hit a button to "express interest."

it's unbelievable that u still use that phrase 'higher-quality guys'. it tells more about u than about guys u cruise online.

I don't understand this whole constant attack on me. I think everyone agrees that there is a range of guys (more desirable to less desirable). Maybe I should just instead say "guys that are more attractive to me mentally and physically."

Read and analyse some of your own previous posts and you might gets some clues as to why you cop some negative.

"Beware that you can't communicate with anyone on thailovelinks unless you pay for membership. I did 3-month at $20 a month. It seems that almost nobody on there has a paid subscription...."

You really think the average young Thai man (working or not working) can afford 600Baht for such subscriptions?

But perhpas that's an indication of what you mean by 'high quality'.

It's marked on pretty much every map. It's the Soi that you go down to go to Babylon from South Sathorn.

Starting at Rama 4, walk along South Sathorn. Your immediately in front of a big glass office tower 'Q House Lumpini'. Soi 1 starts at the end of that property. On the opposite corner of that same soi (on South Sathorn) is the JUSMAC complex (joint Thai / US military agency).

Agree with ICON, there are plenty of very wealthy Thais living in that area. This point has background as to why Babylon (in it's first location and current location) is even in that actual area.

Even those you could afford it, why would they even want to pay for a subscription? There's so many gay dating sites they can use for free, like GayRomeo, ManJam and Fridae.

I was not trying in any way to say that the non-payers are not high quality. I just wanted to warn that thailovelinks charges to be able to send actual messages, and that most guys on there don't pay (and therefore can't communicate with you unless you have a paid subscription). In fact, if you look at my posts, I said that thailovelinks seems to have "higher-quality" guys than gayromeo.

When I first checked out thailovelinks, I was disappointed that I could not send messages to anyone (unless they had a paid subscription) unless I paid for subscription. I also figured out that, it seemed, nobody else had paid subscriptions. So I paid, and found that I could send and receive messages (even if other guys did not have subscriptions). I found that the quality of the experiences was better than on gayromeo. It seemed that gayromeo was all about the Thai guys getting bombarded by vast (almost insane) volumes of contacts. There was also a lot of weird games--I even had some Thais get mentally sadistic if I did not promise immediately to be their monagamous boyfriend.

I'd appreciate hearing about other people's experiences with thailovelinks. Hopefully the contacts I made there will be real when I go to Bangkok and actually try to meet them in person. I also had some really great upcountry guys contact me, but I had to tell them that I'm only looking for guys in Bangkok. In fact, I think if you're looking for upcountry guys, you'll be amazed at some of the non-narcissic guys on there. I actually had some hot masculine military and other uniformed guys go after me.

Thanks for explaining where Sathorn Soi 1 is. I thought it was probably that soi. My Bangkok map (yellow cover, bought at Border's Books, "Periplus Travel Maps") labels it as "Soi Atthakan Prasit." But now I vaguely remember a taxi driver or motorcycle guy calling it "Sathorn Soi 1" once, I think.

I agree--I totally can't figure out why there are all those Thai guys on there with unpaid subscriptions. All they can do is send "indications" of interest and see if the other guy will pay in order to write back. I've found that a lot of things in cruising make no sense. This whole thailovelinks thing makes no sense.

Not to mention the dozens of local Thai sites that Thai men use to make contact.

"....see if the other guy will pay in order to write back."

Take a moment to analyse what your saying. If you have limited income (and 90% of Thai young men have limited to very limited income, and some maybe zero income especially if they are students), then you work with what you have / what you can afford. Nothing really wrong with that.

Your comment sounds like they are out to trick someone / take advantage of someone.

Or maybe this is an indicator of what you are all about.

Wantasian - Beware of upcountry guys. Many of them are veterans of Bangkok, Pattaya, Phuket & Hua Hin gay/non-gay bars, of massage houses or other pleasure spots. Or incidentally they're back home during the low seasons. Not all of them are students or out-of-work graduates.

Sorry to burst some fantasies out there, but it is common and widespread among the multitude of hookup sites to have 'plants' to lure in guys who might want to meet them, but more importantly, might have a credit card. Sometimes the plants are real, but often they're fake -- a fact you learn after the hookup site has gotten your credit card.

So upcountry guys are the ones to beware of.

And of course Bangkok guys are all genuine and honest.

And of coure farang are all genuine and honest too.

Funnily enough, I just received the following message on Gay Romeo:

Yes, I received the same from bigcock. Porn used to be a fine lad and not just about money but now seems to be enjoying being high a little too much. I am very proud of the last shot in his profile, which I took a couple of years back.

It's a shame that so many boys are looking for "high fun" on GayRomeo these days. It makes them even more vulnerable to all kinds of abuse. Now hardly a day passes without someone suggesting to have a high session... :mad:

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Same on ratefun, 99% of the posters are looking high parties etc.

Is a high party, as the name suggests, shagging on drugs, or am I missing something?

It means they are looking for drugs.

Ratefun is blocked right now but I guess the last 50 times I looked at this site, for Thailand, perhaps 80% or more of the posters were looking for 'high' activity (I think about 10 member profiles per page and maybe 10 - 15 pages of 'on-line' now members, per visit).

In total It's quite a few guys.

My other obervations re this site:

- 90% of the member pictures are of hot young guys with much better than average bodies / very nice definition etc., and most have multiple photos, all hot. (Whether the pictures are stolen is of course a question mark, but I've never seen any of the pictures on porno sites etc.)

- Never noticed any suggestions about money.

Some other Gay Romeo observations:

1. I'm wearing a hat in all my photos = I'm going bald
2. I use the words "God bless" = I'm a Filipino
3. My cock size is "XL" or "XXL" = I live in a fantasy land
4. My profile is more than three lines long = I'm going to stick to you like glue and it's gonna be messy

Quite funnily, a well-respected (think ala Guardian) newsppr in my country had a report of someone who collected the pix from sites like Gayromeo/dar etc.-but the ''cut-offs== no head, etc''. or those with comparing members with coins/tubes etc. This was in the saturday magazine supplemnt.
My question would be for the perspective of some Thai boy in BKK:
1. does not really like that working in bars, but does very good sex. Would he be able to scrape by on GR? Would that need an awful lot of being online and making dates?
2. is there any recognisable form of 'rating/review'' for GR or the like boys? To me it seems even more a shot in the dark as pointing at someone in the line-up for a massagejoint.

I always read the guest-book entries.- and look at the number of views the profile has. If they have over a large number (say over 2 ,000 views) and no comments in the guest book, they have probably removed them all because they were negative. Good reviews from other farangs however are usually a good indication to the character of the guys.

thanks, I guess (as I have never bothered to make a profile on it), this is closed off to those just browisng now/ In my country there are 2 or 3 (partly overlap-with lend/stolen items from the others) sites that allow customers to rate rental boys. Many, many more for rental girls (a member of parlmt was once catched on it-he did not have to step down from his seat)/

I see on one of his profiles on gayromeo that one of his customers has already said he needs to be watched carefully. Great shame just my type as well.

So, go for it and just watch your stuff!

Puts me off a guy once I know that. Pity as I think he would have found me a regular customer. I have learnt since that the guy who told me has had several other guys who have got in touch saying they have experienced the same thing.

Charming tag line to thumbnail of angel-faced 19 y.o. on Pattaya Gay Romeo

"No money - go fuck the dog" :)

Here is a follow-up about my experiences with thailovelinks. I posted earlier that this is a pay site (one cannot communicate with others unless he or the other person is a paid member--and I think almost nobody else is a paid member, thus requiring my paid membership).

Anyway, I met a very large number of nice Thai guys on there, but this only resulted in a very FEW actual meetings when I was in Bangkok for 2 weeks recently.

Also, here are some problems with the site: first, you will get contacted by a lot of women. This is odd because one time I tried to respond back to one of these woman and say that obviously I was looking only for men, so what led her to respond to my profile? but the system would not let me send her any message (I got an error message because her profile said F for M, and mine said M for M--so I don't know how all these women have been able to send to me).

Second, even though my profile says please only respond if you're in Bangkok area, most of the expressions of interest I get are from upcountry people. I send them a response that I'm just looking for people in Bangkok are, and some say they are actually in Bangkok area. Anyway, I've learned to just ignore these expressions of interest.

Before my earlier trip slightly more than 6 months ago, I met a lot of guys on gayromeo, and reduced those to a manageable list to try to actually meet. It seems that those guys were more interested in actually meeting than almost all the ones I met on thailovelinks before my most recent trip. But none of the gayromeo ones resulted in anything approaching a relationship.

Also, on thailovelinks, I found that the Thai who INITIATED contact with ME ended up being interested meeting and then sleeping over. Where I initiated contact, and they were then interested in me, these usually ended up being a waste of time: most ended up being too busy to meet, or were entertained by the whole thing, or thought it was very strange that I was actually trying to set up a meeting, etc.

Also, I found that one should carry a list of guys' phone numbers in one's pocket, because when they call, they NEVER say who they are, and just start talking, "hi, how are you . . ." and they all sound the same, and I'd have to ask them their name, or tell them I have to call them back (after looking them up in my records in my room, by their phone number). With my caller i.d. and my list of their numbers and names on one sheet in my pocket, I could quickly look up who was calling.

Anyway, I'm trying to find a good relationship, and I did meet 4 really nice Thai on thailovelinks who I really liked. Two of these are ones I'd be happy to have a relationship with. One of these two just talked for 3 hours (in a personal meeting in my room) but ended up being in a hurry to go to some event later, and we could not meet again because he had to go upcountry (he has a good education and interesting job, etc.). He kept sending me text messages that he really liked me. Oddly, since returning to U.S., I've sent him e-mails which he does not respond to.

My general impression with Thailovelinks is that many of the guys think it's entertaining/funny when you call them and actually try to meet--but on gayromeo, they expect to meet, or immediately play games where you immediately know to delete these people from your list. There were two on thailovelinks who worked and lived by Suvarnabhumi who got a big kick out of my proposing ahead-of-time to simply take a taxi to meet them after I arrived at BKK (this would avoid them having to try to come into central Bangkok later). We never met. Later we just went around and around trying to set up a meeting, and never met (everything would have worked out a lot better if they just let me take a taxi to see them very quickly). Also, I think I only met one person on thailovelinks who had a car (gayromeo is probably the same).

You haven't figured out how to save contacts on your phone, so their name comes up when you receive a call from them?