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-- If I read the recent & various postings aright about the TAWAN CLUB I'm left with the flg. impressions -

1.- The men on stage do not remove their briefs/knickers but wear all the time now;
2.- There is no Big Cock Show;
3.- There is no BOLD Show and
4.- The Grand Finale is a Jack-off act - for wch. one is encouraged- doubtless - to put a 100.Bh. note in the pot to encourage the Wankers!

-- So - what is the continuing fascination with that place? --

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corrected your impressions of the shows below

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-- Khun Orson,
- So you have in fact corrected your own & earlier statement of '...which begs the question ... .'.

- So, for example, for the Big Cock Show do the young men walk around in their full & nude glory or just pull-down discreetly their briefs for a brief sighting? I remember that once, and not too long ago, one YM. used to attach a tinkly bell to his erect member for the au naturel walk-around!
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The question of "sponsors". The victims of Suwit may have died happy men but they were foolish, deluded and duped. I admit that I visit countries like Thailand and Brazil with the idea of meeting young men for sex and am prepared to pay for it. I get great sex they get money. Middle aged and elderly foreigners who visit these countries seeking "true love" frankly I feel sorry for. As stated by one one contributor above the stories of foreigners being ripped off where heart ruled head (my words) are legion.

I can give 2 examples from people of my acquaintance. A friend met a boy in Morroco about 10 years ago and visits him twice a year. This boy has an endless litany of reasons why my friend should send money (too numerous to list here) but the latest beats them all. He is in jail and wants a large sum of money to bribe the prosecuting authorities to let him out. After some reluctance my friend has acquiesced. The other example is a current work colleague who met this Fillipino boy on the internet and they have regular webcam sessions. The money requests for all the bleeding heart reasons started early and my colleague openly admits he is now nearly penniless. This boy is offering every excuse in the world for not coming to Australia. How many others must this boy have in tow! I am sorry but I am just unsentimental or am I missing out on something? I don't think so.

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One reason I dont have a Thai live-in boyfriend is I have no intention of being milked dry by these guys. I see some guys 2 or 3 times, but as soon as the subject turns to sick buffalo, moms diagnosed with cancer or dad in gaol and have to bail him out to plant the rice harvest, they're gone.

It may seem calous, but there are hundreds , nay thousands of guys out there who can provide me with sexual services for fair payment for services rendered, without selling my soul or mortgaging the farm.

Once you understand that a farang b/friend is a meal ticket for the whole family, you are far better prepared to avoid being sucked dry. Read any of the 4 novels by John Burdett in the Bangkok Tattoo series, and you will understand it even more. Their over-riding obligation is to family, and no farang will ever usurp that obligation, he merely facilitates it.

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I think the appropriate adage is: 'There's no fool like an old fool' - or 'A fool and his money are soon parted' - although where the fool got his money from in the first place is another question !

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I really don't understand the lonely guys who look for "love" and then get angry at the "boys". Why don't they look for guys or men! I am not interested in boys who work in bars. I have lived here for over 10 yrs in total and associate with middle and upper class Thais who work and are educated. If their mothers get sick they go to Bangkok General, Bangkok Christian or Bumrungrat Hospital. They take holidays overseas. What is wrong with you guys. I am chubby but have been able to attract real gay guys in BKK. My partner is 7 yrs younger than me. We have been together for 14 yrs and we now live in his room at a 5 star hotel given due to his position. We have both had ups and downs financially and have helped each other out. I drove his car for 7 years. Get real. What the hell do you talk about to a money boy?

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I was going to type "Boys says it all" but that would imply that such lonely souls are all paedophiles, which would not only be unfair but also libellous. I think it's closer to the truth to say that subconsciously they're looking for that teenage love crush they never got to sleep with. Imagine coming to Thailand on holiday and seeing so many young men who look like they could have been that lost-long-ago heartthrob. No wonder so many men come to LOS and fall incurably head over heels with some scheming charmer.

I was there, I did that and now I'm over it. So I understand why they do it the first time. What I don't understand is why they keep doing it over and over again.

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Yes there are in reality 2 Thailands. The BKK set (where I have met several nice established Thai gays - regretably never a perfect match for me) and the Isaan Thais who head south in search of fortune and farangs. They are the money boys, many here to feed their families, and there can rarely be a "love match " with them.

My favourite author summed up the pay for sex scene beautifully - (I para-phrase) "where the lonely, desperate, love-sick poor of Isaan meet lonely , desperate love-sick rich of the west. It's a perfect match !)

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Yes there are in reality 2 Thailands. The BKK set (where I have met several nice established Thai gays - regretably never a perfect match for me) and the Isaan Thais who head south in search of fortune and farangs. They are the money boys, many here to feed their families, and there can rarely be a "love match " with them.

My favourite author, John Burdett, summed up the pay for sex scene beautifully - (I para-phrase) "where the lonely, desperate, love-sick poor of Isaan meet lonely , desperate love-sick rich of the west. It's a perfect match !"

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