AUDIO DEBUNKING THE MURDOCH PRESS REPORT:

Click3rd Item JAN 11:

ABC News Radio




Television coverage of this published finding showed a graphic of a Listerine label carrying an
endorsement from the Australian Dental Authority.

Re Alcohol and mouth cancer.Binge drinking coupled with smoking exacerbates onset of mouth cancer

What about drinking alcohol?

Prof McCullough said the most popular mouthwashes contained higher concentrations of alcohol than drinks such as wine or beer.

"If you have a glass of wine, you tend to swallow it,'' he said.

"With mouthwash, you have a higher level of alcohol and spend longer swishing it around your mouth.

"The alcohol that is present in your mouth is turned into acetaldehyde.''

Regular alcohol consumption was a cancer risk, Prof McCullough said, but usually did not involve swishing it around the mouth.

Eating while drinking increased salivation, which lowered the risks, he said.

"The most significant difference (between alcohol and alcohol-containing mouthwash) is that one is for pleasure and the other is being recommended as a health product.''

......I'll give up mouthwash before wine thanks !!

What else might you tend to do with it?

Unfortunately for nonsmokers it makes little difference. One can still smell it and it is a major turnoff.

I think we may have a misunderstanding of smoking.

Smoking refers to fellatio ... oral sex. If a subsequent nonsmoker can still smell it, either he has an unusually acute sense of smell or the departed smokee has an unusually virulent form of crotch rot.:eek:

-- "Mea culpa.",
- Even although I used Italic script for the word smoking perhaps I ought to have realized that there are those who are unfamiliar with the local meaning of that word - wch. is not the enjoyment of ciggies.!
-- Bibi.. --

Thanks for clarification. Im so ignorant:mad:

"Ignorant" may be a bit harsh. It's a euphemism that is (I think??) unique to Thailand and even in Thailand only a very small subset of the population would ever use it in this way. Since we are a part of the subset, it's easy to forget that most people are unfamiliar with its local meaning.

asking medical advice from a hygenist?
maybe flossing advice yes...

-- Y'day., (17th.), I went to BKK. XTN. HOSPITAL'S Physical Examination Unit - wch. is run in conjunction with CDC. ATLANTA - for a regular, std. & free check of my blood: HIV. & Sy..

-- I asked the nurse about gargling with L*str*r*n*, or similar, before and/or after oral s*x?
- Her reply, 'In my own opinion.' was along the lines that plenty of fresh water to wash-out one's mouth before and after would be better; but if one feels that L'*n*. or similar would be helpful then it would be better to use it afterwards.
- I write as a non-medical person. -- Bibi.. --

how many times do you have regular check for std and hiv?
And what is a good place in BKK to go?

-- The recommended period between check-ups is three months; reportedly this is the window that it can - but not always - take HIV. symptoms to shew after first infection; other STDs./STIs. may shew themselves sooner.
- I go to -
BANGKOK CHRISTIAN HOSPITAL,
- Physical Examination Unit,
- addr.: Tnn. Si Lom,
Bang rak, BKK. 10500.;
- BTS./MRT.: Sala Daeng, (S2.),/Silom;
- tel.: (02)-634 2917.;
- web: ¤ÅÔ¹Ô¡ªØÁª¹ÊÕÅÁ
- hrs.: tue.-sat. 16-22.oo.
- Testing is anonymous and free.
-- Bibi. --

-- Should one decide that BCH's. test for just HIV. & Sy. may be insufficient then the flg. pte. clinic., (wch. I attended in jul. '04.), might suffice as it will run the gamut of necessary tests, (blood, 3 swabs, urine etc.), as requested -

SURAWONGSE MEDICAL CENTER..
- addr.: Surawongse plaza,
37/4, Suriwong rd., Bang rak, BKK. 10500.;
- loc'n. off Suriwong rd. on small soi between SARIKA CAFE and branch of SIAM COMM'L. BANK, (roughly opp. to MONTEIN HTL.),;
- tel.: (02)-235 2662-64.;
- web.: n/a.;
- hrs.: 08.30.-22.oo. - not sure of this is daily or excl. w/ends.?
- On checking-in one registers on payment of a fee and is given the std. sized card with one's name and OPD. number on it for future ref.;
- The results of a few tests may be given soon after testing, for others a wait of several days for the lab's. analysis may be req'd.;
- cost for testing only: approx. 3,000.oo.Bh., (from memory!),;
- There is a small dispensary, wch. does not carry a comprehensive stock of medications for all types of infections.

-- NB.: There are other clinics - pte. & pub. - and hospitals that will cary-out these tests.

-- E&OE.. -- Usual disclaimer. -- Bibi.. --