Security at Tarntawan also write down the ID details in the book they keep of everyone's comings and goings. As we all should know, Thailand is the Land of Scams and I take every precaution I can.

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I have honestly never heard of anything like that happening.The arrests that are publicised are usually for VERY "dec dec" (like 12 to 14) , but I agree with all above posts ...... best to be vigilant. There are so many cute 18 - 20's guys why the hell would any-one risk the trama of under-age (unless thay are paedophile?)

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-- I'm sure that writing-down things in a log-book is all v. well - but, really, what does that mean?
- When I used to stay in the SURIWONGSE HOTEL I used to give a suitable ack. to the two Sec. Gds. from time-to-time in the hope that they'd be MORE careful in their checking of my guests' IDs. - at least as far as I was concerned.

-- But howmany of us resemble the photos. in our p'ports.?
- Perhaps that's why the Immig'n. Bureau insist on recent photos. of LESS than 6 mos. old. when one renews one's Retirement Visa?
- Thai IDs. are renewed every so many yrs. - thus plenty of time for facial features, especially of young people, to change and to become LESS like the original photo., especially if the photo. wasn't too good in the first place.

-- Bibi. --

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Frankly I don't care about any of those sorts of details. Someone Thai has recorded the ID details of my visitor so if there's a subsequent dispute, as mentioned by another poster, there's some record that someone else than me saw the ID. Not that for a moment I believe that would be much help in the Land of Scams, if it came to it. If anything it's a potential deterrent to someone who was hoping to use the fake ID/underage switcheroo, that's all. They may have second thoughts about their potential success. I've certainly encountered boys who have refused to go with me when they've found where I'm staying (sometimes as we're about to walk up the driveway). That's their choice - and maybe my protection, such as it is.

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Do you know where such persons are available? Thais can't get an ID card until they are 16, right?

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It's amazing how people see what they expect to see. My comment was intended to point out the obvious nonsense you typically spout, that a boy such as you describe would not, in fact, be old enough have an ID card.

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I bow to your obvious superior and extensive experience in being rejected by boys.

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-- Wrong.
- Every Thai has to report-in and be issued with his/her ID. on his/her fifteenth, (15th.), b'day..
- sources:
1.- Farang who teaches in an int'l. school;
2.- Two Thai staff in CHESTER'S GRILL.
-- Bibi. --

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And the way the Thais count things that would make him 16, right? I'm not too fussed about whether I'm right or wrong on this point, given that it's some age greater than the usual onset of puberty and less than the age of consent for commercial sex in Thailand. The question was put merely to point out Nalong's typical rush to be a smart-arse and launch some entirely inappropriate (for this Board) personal nastiness, which seems by the way to have resulted in the Moderators removing all his posts from this thread.

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-- As this apparent difference of one year between the TH. way and others' way of calculating ages might determine if a Thai boi is of legal age or otherwise, let us say a Thai boi is born in 1993AD., (Western style.), then he'd go and collect his ID. during the yr. 2008AD., when he'd be turning 15YO.?
- Am I correct?
- I shall check with some of my 'Talking boyz.', but yr. advice will be equally welcome..
-- Bibi. --

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As I say, the age of consent for commercial sex in Thailand is 18 (see Gay Asia and Asian Gay and Lesbian Resources by Utopia 大同 advisory, for example), and that's counted as the Western way (ie. he has to have reached his 18th birthday). My preference is for young men who look to be in their twenties. Since I only ever take a boy back to my hotel from nearby bar, and he always looks to be in his twenties, and I always stay at Tarntawan where security checks on IDs, I've pretty much minimized any risks the Land of Scams may put my way in that department.

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[quote=silomGWM;671139]As I say, the age of consent for commercial sex in Thailand is 18 (see Gay Asia and Asian Gay and Lesbian Resources by Utopia 大同 advisory, for example), and that's counted as the Western way (ie. he has to have reached his 18th birthday).

.... and what is the age for consentual non -commercial sex (however that might be defined??)

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Some people assert that all gay sex is interpreted as commercial by some Thai authorities.

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Straight or gay is irrelevant. 18 is the number.

The only exception, or so I am led to believe, is within a marriage sanctioned by the parents (individuals under 18 may marry, but the parents' permission is required).

Whatever, 18 is not debatable for any casual encounters -- gay or straight.

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Just wondering what the difference is between 'talking boys' and other boys.

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