555 ... no, from his ID card! subtract 543 and u have his d.o.b. easy !

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I had assumed you meant that the age check and his ID were independent of each other. After all, boys carrying ID cards that are not their own are, so I'm told, not unknown. I never ask to see ID cards, as I stay at Tarntawan Hotel when in Thailand and they always check that sort of thing themselves.

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The ID cards do have their photo, and full name and I haven't come across a fake one yet ...... though I am aware boys do "borrow" cards on occassions. The guards at my condo in Jomtien just smile and salute when I bring a boy back, so I cant rely on them to do the checking for me!

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The ID cards do have their photo, and full name and I haven't come across a fake one yet

My closest tells me there are numerous places in Bangkok, well known, where you can in 5 minutes buy a fake ID card, fake ID number and name, with your photo. Don't know about Pattaya but my guess is that it would be easy enough.

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I'd imagine it's the boy's "lunch" he's hoping to enjoy.

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How do you think I'd go in court. "well guv, I mean yr 'honour, sir. The security guard said he was 18. fair dinkum... so how was i to know ...??"

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-- Several yrs. ago I was told the story of a Swedish tourist who, having checked the young girl's ID., ret'd. to his hotel with her.
- After it was all over the girl left.
- However, she ret'd. not long after accompanied by a couple of BKK's. Finest who charged him with picking-up a minor.
- He protested that he'd checked her ID. first of all, and that the ID. at wch. he looked shewed her as being over 18YO..
- The Police asked her to shew them her ID., she complied - it was for an under-age girl.
-- Maybe she worked with the Police and both profited thereby?

-- I have been wondering if some of those under-age looking boyz in SUNEE PLAZA might not be police 'plants.' designed to catch the unwary tourist?
- Catch a farang tourist with an u'age. boi - good PR. etc. etc. for Pattaya's Finest - ha!
-- Bibi. --

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Security at Tarntawan also write down the ID details in the book they keep of everyone's comings and goings. As we all should know, Thailand is the Land of Scams and I take every precaution I can.

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-- I'm sure that writing-down things in a log-book is all v. well - but, really, what does that mean?
- When I used to stay in the SURIWONGSE HOTEL I used to give a suitable ack. to the two Sec. Gds. from time-to-time in the hope that they'd be MORE careful in their checking of my guests' IDs. - at least as far as I was concerned.

-- But howmany of us resemble the photos. in our p'ports.?
- Perhaps that's why the Immig'n. Bureau insist on recent photos. of LESS than 6 mos. old. when one renews one's Retirement Visa?
- Thai IDs. are renewed every so many yrs. - thus plenty of time for facial features, especially of young people, to change and to become LESS like the original photo., especially if the photo. wasn't too good in the first place.

-- Bibi. --

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Frankly I don't care about any of those sorts of details. Someone Thai has recorded the ID details of my visitor so if there's a subsequent dispute, as mentioned by another poster, there's some record that someone else than me saw the ID. Not that for a moment I believe that would be much help in the Land of Scams, if it came to it. If anything it's a potential deterrent to someone who was hoping to use the fake ID/underage switcheroo, that's all. They may have second thoughts about their potential success. I've certainly encountered boys who have refused to go with me when they've found where I'm staying (sometimes as we're about to walk up the driveway). That's their choice - and maybe my protection, such as it is.

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I have honestly never heard of anything like that happening.The arrests that are publicised are usually for VERY "dec dec" (like 12 to 14) , but I agree with all above posts ...... best to be vigilant. There are so many cute 18 - 20's guys why the hell would any-one risk the trama of under-age (unless thay are paedophile?)

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Do you know where such persons are available? Thais can't get an ID card until they are 16, right?

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-- Wrong.
- Every Thai has to report-in and be issued with his/her ID. on his/her fifteenth, (15th.), b'day..
- sources:
1.- Farang who teaches in an int'l. school;
2.- Two Thai staff in CHESTER'S GRILL.
-- Bibi. --

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And the way the Thais count things that would make him 16, right? I'm not too fussed about whether I'm right or wrong on this point, given that it's some age greater than the usual onset of puberty and less than the age of consent for commercial sex in Thailand. The question was put merely to point out Nalong's typical rush to be a smart-arse and launch some entirely inappropriate (for this Board) personal nastiness, which seems by the way to have resulted in the Moderators removing all his posts from this thread.

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-- As this apparent difference of one year between the TH. way and others' way of calculating ages might determine if a Thai boi is of legal age or otherwise, let us say a Thai boi is born in 1993AD., (Western style.), then he'd go and collect his ID. during the yr. 2008AD., when he'd be turning 15YO.?
- Am I correct?
- I shall check with some of my 'Talking boyz.', but yr. advice will be equally welcome..
-- Bibi. --

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