My experience is that if I go after a nice Asian in a sauna in the U.S., they're likely to be stuck-up and hard-to-get.

Sorry but I've found the opposite: Thai men dislike shampooing the hair on their head. I think it's gross. Many also don't even like to get it wet. And many will take a shower and use no soap or little soap. If I have one over to my hotel room for overnight, often I will get in the shower with them and play baby and wash them real good and shampoo their head--that way I know they're clean. If I just let them take a shower by themselves, I feel that they don't wash thoroughly. And I've smelled odors around penis, etc. after they showered--indicating poor washing. And I don't like the smell of wet head hair that hasn't been washed with shampoo--gross.

Thais don't clean themselves well?
 

Sorry but I don't accept your comment that Thai's don't have clean bodies, and that they don't use soap.

I cannot accept that either. I can count on one hand the number of Thai guys I have encountered over the years who were anything less than squeaky clean. The only time I've noticed boys not washing their hair is in short-time encounters where they don't want to mess up their gel job.

I don't know why my experiences are so different. It seems that they don't like to wash their hair (almost like they think it's unhealthy for the hair) Another observation: if they have long hair, they hate to wash it. I like when they have short hair--it also dries quicker. I also hate the sloppiness of many Thai's hair. I heard that this is a Korean influence.

Thai cleanliness
 

As Icon rightly said, only a tiny numbers of Thais are anything less than squeaky clean. Thais are brought up to be fastidious about personal cleanliness and personal hygiene.

I don't know where you get this idea that: "They don't like to wash their hair because it's unhealthy for the hair", but I suggest it's just not true.

"If they have long hair, they hate to wash it". Again I dispute this.

"You like it when they have short hair - it dries quicker", are you in fact revealing that you simply don't like long hair so you criticize long hair in any way you can.

My guess is that most members here have had the experience of taking a young man somewhere and the absolute first requirement is that both people shower, and I'll say again, in my experience many will also shampoo their hair. It's true that longer-hair takes longer to shampoo and to groom after the shower, but are you forgetting that it's very posssible the young man with long hair has in fact shampooed his hair just before he left home to come to work, so because of the time factor he now washes his body and misses the hair?

"I also hate the sloppiness of many Thai's hair. I heard that this is a Korean influence". Thai youngsters are fashion conscious like all young people everywhere. It's probably true that some Japanese and Korean fashion factors do currently have some influence on Thai youngsters, thats' life. You might describe it as sloppy, they think it's cool - it's fashion. Doesn't necessarily equate to dirty.

-- In my short time of a score or so of yrs. of first visiting and now living here in the LoS. I can recall meeting only one Thai money man - ex. Royal Thai Navy & part-time taxi-driver - whose pers. hygiene was OUT.
- I'd say that the greater majority of the rest were scrupulous in their pers. hygiene - especially when using my HOT water!
-- In fact my main objection to quite a few Thai boyz is that their breaths smell - but that, I u'stand., is caused by their spicey foods. there's a separate thread on that v. point I seem to remember.

-- In BABYLON SAUNA it's been my experience that it's the farangs who smell - pong mak mak! :(

Very interesting thread. I think there are hardly cleaner boys than South East Asians. Even in Isarn villages they shower at least 2 times per day. I never had a boy with a smelling cock. Just one exeption and that one had a phimosis.

Wheras I wished some would shave or shorten their straight pubic hair.

Thai guys cleanliness
 

I was thinking.. perhaps they've already showered earlier before they're with you? :rolleyes:

They want to know how gym fit you are .. It is almost amusing if I didn't get rejected so much at Mania. One little touch and they know .. haha.. The size queens go for the dicks: not big enough and they go ..

In my ltd. experience in BABYLON SAUNA it's invariably the farangs' grasping fingers that go for either one's cock or for one's back passage - v. seldom the Thais.

Have to agree with Wantasian - in the past year or so (and I have been coming here for 20 years and now live here) many of the boys refuse to wash their hair if they have had any styling done to it before going to the bars. On several occasions, I have showered after them and found the soap bars still dry, showing that they have only rinsed themselves off.

Regardless of whether or not they might have showered just prior to meeting you, their hair smells of the cigarette smoke from their own smoking, or in the bars - nothing more disgusting than that when you are trying to be cozy with someone - bf or pickup! (OH, did I say that -of course there is no smoking in the bars, the laws prohibit it -:eek:)

Lets go back to the old days when they all showered from top to bottom and their hair, long or short, always smelled and (IMHO) looked good, unlike today when you wonder if they are trying to copy the look of a pinneapple or durian!