visited pattaya last week. went to a-bomb, not much of the bigger boys there. went to boyzboyzboyz for the first show, i was amazed by how old their dancers were for the 1st show. offed a dud ;(

2nd night, i wore something comfortable - t-shirt, jeans and flip flops and the bars seems to confuse me to being thai. some even asked for my id before being allowed entry to the premises. i then realized that these bars are the ones with dancers of questionable age, so i quickly left.

Maybe they thought you were an undercover cop !!

That's exactly what they thought!
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-- My Enthusiastic & American Friend and I were in PATTAYA from 12th.-16th.oct.; he needed some R&R. away from the stresses & strains of his professional career;
- Apart from the 13th. the weather was mostly o'cast. & damp - not encouraging one to go to DONGTAN BEACH, where, unsurprisingly, there weren't all that many beach-boys etc. hawking their svces. & wares.

-- Pattaya's South rd. is being re-made up, thus rd.-tfc. is being re-routed on Pattaya 2nd. rd. between the South rd.:2nd. rd. i'sect. for approx. a couple of hundred yrs. towards BOYZTOWN; a similar stretch of Beach rd. is CLOSED temporarily to rd.-tfc. also.
- Rd.-tfc. to & from JOMTIEN is being re-routed, too, in the gnl. area of the Pattaya 3rd. rd. fly-over because of re-surfacing.

wondering why there seems to be a different route that the bus use from ekkamai to pattaya vs. v.v. the trip from ekkamai to pattaya took more than 3 hours, with the bus stopping at some bus depot after the bkk sukhumvit road. then along the high way, suddenly turning right to what seems like a side road.

the trip back was high way all the way, and took only 2 hours. is there a faster way from bkk to pattaya?

there are a lot of DEA banners accross beach road in pattaya, but i guess the message it did not permeate the sunee area. when i was in one of the bars, i saw a farang snorting some powder out of a small container he held in his hand. He later gave some powder to the boys, who put it in the tranparent plastic bag. which i was wondering how weird is that snorting whatever drug that was in a plastic bag. anyway, i quickly left as i do not want any chance of the BIB to ruin my vacation.

Pawanthip thai massage ...
 

-- During our a/m. vacation in PATTAYA my Enthusiastic & American Friend visited PAWANTHIP THAI MASSAGE. twice -
- addr.: 564, M.10., Pattaya Sai 2nd. rd.,
(Nr. MIKE HOTEL.), Nong prue,
CHONBURI, 20150.;
- loc'n.: on Pattaya 2nd. rd. adjacent to MIKE HOTEL.;
- tel.: (038)-710 132.;
- web: n/a.;
- hrs.: approx. 11.-23.oo.hrs., or maybe later if many customers.

-- Both times my E&AF. chose the same masseur, a young looking man possibly just out of the monkhood, judging by his shaven head & eye-brows;
- Later he told me that his masseur wanted to go to his hotel to give him a pedicure and then to spend the night with him.

-- Based-on his enthusiastic rpt. I visited but once and chose a mature looking masseur: Khun Nai; early 30s. & hails from I-San; speaks adequate enough English;
- ETA.: approx. 17.oo.hrs.;
- Curtained cubicles, approx. 07'.06". x04'.06".; curtains extend approx. 07'. above fl.-level - thus discretion advised! Mattress on the floor - clean bed-linen;
- No showers, thus one should shower etc. beforehand in one's htl. or elsewhere; after an oil-massage one is rubbed-down with a towel to remove any surplus oil;
- I chose my usual 90mins'. & oil-massage for just 400.Bh.;
- As it would be an oil-massage I gestured to Khun Nai to remove his tee-shirt & masseur's trousers, but he pointed to outside the curtains & shook his head - but he did roll-up his trousers' legs;
- A good & thorough massage, with a certain amt. of att'n. & of time being paid to those parts upon wch. the sun ... even if it did lack any effleurage and fancy strokes;
- At the right time his fingers started their skillful work upon a particularly sensitive part of my body, and I felt that it would be pleasurable for him for me to reciprocate by offering some 'sa-mook.' - to wch. he didn't object;
- In our talking he told me that OUT-calls were acceptable and at no extra charge. He added that I was his first customer of the day; to my query he replied that the parlor presently handles some 20 customers per diem, mostly for foot-massages;
- When all was completed I was offered a cup of hot & of black tea.

-- A couple of evenings later I asked my E&AF's. masseur if he'd like to return to my hotel to massage me there; after some moments of chatter he didn't appear to be all that interested - so I wasn't interested any further; his (financial) loss - not mine!

-- Y'day., (15th.), evening I ret'd. to one of my fav. & twinkie-boi a go-go bars in SUNEE PLAZA and witnessed a similar thing;
- Possibly an English-person, judging by his accent, was sniffing & distributing what looked like some powder to most of the bar's boyz who had gathered around him;
- Not all of them surrounded him, I noticed - thus I was able to enjoy the pleasures offered by a young, dark-skinned & well-enough endowed - by the stds. of that particular a go-go bar - young man.

Funny boys a go-go bar
 

-- My Enthusiastic & American Friend & I visited FUNNY BOYS, BOYZTOWN, thrice during our recent visit;
- What we like about it are:
1. - NO smoking of ciggies.;
2. - NO loud back-gd. music, thus one may talk in conversational tones;
3. - Pleasant & attentive staff who are not assertive;
- The flg. boyz caught my attn.: #46., 65. & 96..

Dynamite boys' club
 

-- More or less on a whim on the 12th. evening my E&AF. suggested that we visit DYNAMITE BOYS' CLUB - Pattayaland Soi 1., to see their 22.30.hrs. perf.;
- ETA.: approx. 22.30.hrs.;
- Not many spectators, we were shewn to seats v. much stage LEFT;
- From memory drinks at 150.Bh.?
- I didn't count the no. of R&F. a go-go boyz on parade - probably a dozen PLUS or thereabouts? None of whom I'd describe as being either particularly eye-candy or, from their on stage looks, worth 'Offing.';
- Hse. lts. dimmed sometime after the scheduled start time;
- I didn't keep a written record of the various acts but remember that they included:
1. - BCS.: ten or so boyz wearing semi-transparent & black briefs wch. didn't hide all that much but possibly conformed with some law or other; 3 or 4 are well-endowed and one is VWE. - somuch so that my E&AF's. eyes almost popped-out! :eek:
2. - A female singer of Thai songs;
3. - A couple or three other acts involving a certain amt. of being au naturel, but with Condoms being worn as may be req'd. legally?
-- Possibly Size Queans might find it worth revisiting if only because of the well-endowed young men; although possibly they might not be avail. for offing?

Happy boys ... .
 

-- During our recent visit to PATTAYA I visited HAPPY BOYS twice, on the 12th. & on the 15th. evening's and on my own, as it's not my E&AF's. type of a go-go bar, (but v. much mine! :D ),;
- Most drinks vary between 99. & 150.Bh;
- During my 1st. visit, with possibly another four or five farangs there, my eyes finally 'lighted.-on boi #23.: Khun Sam, 20YO.; hails from SURIN;
- After a while of inconsequential chitter-chat we went upstairs. I shall allow The Hand of Discretion ... over our activities so as not to cause concern to some of our Gentle Readers. But I would confirm the rumors that many boyz from SURIN seem to be better endowed than boys from other areas/districts/provinces or whence-ever.

-- For my 2nd. visit no sooner had I sat-down then #23. made a bee-line for me - well, what's a girl like me to do except to write that again it's time for The Hand of Discretion ...?
- After we'd finished and descended I noticed a couple of farangs had arr'd. and were being pleasant to some of the dozen or so boyz there.

Tom yum ...
 

-- Twice I visited TOM YUM - Sunee Plaza on my own;
- Drinks 140.-150.Bh.;
- On both occasions few if any boyz dancing on the stage, instead they prefered to cluster-around one or two farangs; a good few were au naturel for reasons into wch. we need not venture here; observant voyeurs would have noted a couple of well enough endowed boyz amongst them;
- At one stage there was an argument between a farang customer and one of the staff over the amt. tendered for payment of the bill, wch. I think was resolved by a rather disgruntled customer having to agree with the bar staff? Thereafter I made it a point to hold-up for inspection either the 500Bh. or the 1K.Bh. note tendered and either to say "Hah rawy." or "Neung pahn.", or else to hold-up either five or one finger so as to obviate any misunderstandings.

What is the going rate for "the Hand of discretion........" at the Happy Boys and Tun Yum? Are there any young men over 60kg at these places?

happy boys and eros standard was 500 plus the obligatory drinks. but my second boy was happy with 400. i don't know if it was a bulk discount?

for a quick shake - 20baht seems to be what the farang before me was giving, so i just followed suit.

I think that's totally horrible--probably hooking the boys onto whatever drug it was. What gets me is how they willingly surround the guy wanting to try it. How old was the farang?--I would think that someone doing drugs like that would have exhausted all his money and not be able to afford to travel to Thailand.

-- I don't know, I didn't ask him.

1. - Going rates -
1.1. - HAPPY BOYS: Right now one is expected to buy one's boi a drink of his choice before taking him upstairs. Presently there is no extra charge for going upstairs, it has been waived for the current LOW season. The boi expects to receive 500.Bh. as a MINIMUM;
1.2. - TOM YUM:
1.2.1. - Just a quick shake to a boi standing-up who has joined you of his own accord: 20.Bh.;
1.2.2. - If one invites a boi to join him then it's an obligatory drink for starters; for a bit of 'Getting to know you.' I'd allow 50.Bh.; for a sa-mook or for some chak waao* & kun sa-wan** then I'd expect to pay at least 100.Bh. - MORE were I pleasurably satis., too! :D

-- But, of course, these TIPs. are not graven in stone; the bottom line is 'It's up to you!'.

-* literally means 'To fly a kite.';
-** lit. means 'To go to heaven.';
- Above two phrases courtesy of Thai for Gay Tourists., ISBN.:1-887521-11-9.

2. - To an olde & unreconstructed Imperialist how much is this 60Kg.?

60 kg = approx 132 lbs = approx 9.4 stone

what is your fav. twinkie boi a gogo in Sunee?? I am looking for that kind of bar, but don't know where to find the right and best one!!:D

Sextile,
I understand u live in BKK; are u doing ur grocery shopping by lb and oz? :)

-- The 2nd. para. of my posting should give you a clue why I'd prefer not to mention it! :(

-- Correct.
- Actually, should I be obliged to go shopping for groceries etc. then I purchase generally by the piece: so many apples at somuch eachone and suchlike.

yes I can understand now. But maybe you can send me a private message........ I do not want to be involved in that kind of stuff, so I need to be warned about that....... (as a newbie........):o

-- Sorry, but the answer must be "No." as I do not know you personally.
- All I can suggest is that you use the perceptions that you've been given; should you become aware of anything suspicious then you ask for the bill, pay it, get-up and leave.

or if they ask you for your id, then don't go in.

I do not understand this. Do I have to be suspicious when they ask me for ID? Why is that?

They apparently ask for ID for Asian customers -- to make sure they are NOT Thai undercover police officers. It shows that something illegal is going on inside (use your imagination).

-- It does not take all that much imagination to realize that it would not be all that difficult for Th. undercover police to produce suitable IDs., does it?

It's not...it's also not difficult for them to recruit foreigners to work undercover.
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Happy Boys Bar
 

The "Ladies welcome" sign was very much there and was lit last weekend when I was in Pattaya.

Happy Boys or Happy Place?
 

Be careful not to confuse "Happy Boys" in Sunee Plaza area with "Happy Place" in Pattayaland soi 2. "Happy Place" indeed has a 'Ladies Welcome' sign up in rather permanent looking neon. On Friday night this venue was half full with giggling women, probably amused at the rather odd looking bunch of boys gesturing on the stage. I have never seen a woman in the couple of times I have been to "Happy Boys".

maybe this means that all the boys at HAPPY BOYS (Sunnee Plaza) are GAY:)?

Yes- gay twinks all :)

-- Or maybe that the wimmen haven't discovered it yet?
- In wch. case long may it remain undiscovered by them!

I see this only now-being back in BKk for a day or 2. NO-it may or may not happen-plus that you did not tell what type of bus it was (the all-blue supposed express or the white/orange 2nd l-all main stops. But any bus can be diverted into the depot-for fuelling or you may even need to change.
A much faster (generally) and with the added plus of delivering you at any adres in PTY is the BELLbus from AIRPORT, at the odd hours (7-9-11 etc.). Now that airportrail works, a workable alternative. Book direct at desk at (I think) level -1, 1 up from train, same as airportbuses. NOT the BUSterminal at swampy.

Pattaya Bar update
 

Just back from spending four nights in Pattaya staying at my usual haunt Dusit D2, only minutes walking from Boyztown. Quality of boys not so good this trip although maybe Ok at Wild West Boys, Cupidol and Kawai Boys. Boys Boys Boys was just awful. So were most of the bars in Sunee plaza which is now middle east central. Maybe they should rename the area Sunni plaza. Anyway, back in Boyztown I enjoyed the live shows at the Wild West Boys and Kawai Boys. In fact I think it is the same dance troupe in both bars and maybe in the other bars as well? Maybe that's why the shows are staggered. Missed the show at Copa this time, but saw their mediocre boy lineup. Took an absolute dud upstairs at Happy Place.