I've never done massage except two times at Wat Po, and one time a foot massage, and I have no plans to get caught up in all this tip ambiguity, relatively high charges, etc.--especially since nice guys are available if I simply cruise outside, in saunas, etc. I've had great times for free or 500 or 700 baht. I don't need the massage part. And I think an oil massage would be gross. I know everyone will attack me for being insensitive to worries about the safety of cruising outside, picking up a dangerous dude, etc. But I just can't understand all the fixation with massage places. And considering how much these young guys would make at a real job, it's all way overpriced. (I also don't understand the whole go-go bar scene.)

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1.- I see no reason for any ambiguity over TIPS.. I see what the masseur does after all are finished: if he hangs-around in the room then I give him his TIPS. then & there, but if he goes to prepare my cup of tea, (generally downstairs.), then I give him his TIPS. before leaving the estab..
2.- Having a dry skin I welcome an oil-massage; besides, the oil acts as a preparation, as it were, for les apres massage plaisirs!
- I emphasize the point that I expect a good & 60 mins'. oil massage before anything else and that the masseur's TIPS. will depend upon his massage skills; I've been disappointed but seldom: AGAYA PARLOR, by Boss Mnsn.,(?)., on Rama IV. rd. rings a bell.
3.- Giving a good & thorough massage is hard physical work, as I've found-out from massaging my present tee rak! But I'll allow that I'm an untrained amateur and doubtless a professionally trained masseur would do a better job with LESS effort.
-- Candidly I'd prefer to pay a parlor's rates & TIPS. in a comparatively safer environment rather than try picking-up a cheaper option from the streets or from a sauna and going to some short-time hotel - but that's just me, of course. Looking back I'd write that I've enjoyed only one bad experience in a massage parlor - that was in EVE HOUSE on S'wong. rd..
-- But I guess that the bottom line is that it's a matter of whatever floats yr. boat.

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Bravo! Well said.

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I was at Saladaeng Massage this evening (with a long line of police in riot gear across the street infront of Saladaeng Hotel, sitting on the wall) and enjoyed an oil massage for Bht400 and great extras from a cute lad from Kalasin.
I noted while walking through soi Twilight also this evening, that the boys in yellow shirts do massage at yet another massage place in that soi called Xcite... I think that's now 4 massage places there. Seemed good boys to me.

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-- Maybe three or so weeks ago my enthusiastic & American friend and I were enjoying an early & evening's drink in DICK'S CAFE, wch. is roughly opposite to the Pool Hall in Soi Twilight.
- Sitting out in front of the Hall was a gp. of yellow shirted young men, one of whom - attractive in an ugly sort of way - was making it all to obvious what he had in mind for either or for both of us.
- I asked for and was given their tariff - from memory prices seemed to be about usual.

-- Agreed, Soi Twilight now supports four massage parlors: BKK. MASSAGE, BUNNY MASSAGE, MARIO'S MASSAGE, (was RED MASSAGE.], & XCITE MASSAGE - quite spoilt for choice, aren't we?

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Spoilt for choice? I think that your toungue is firmly in cheek, Mr S!
Quantity is no substitute for quality...

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Khun Sloot, in the "How about Bangkok now?" thread you just asked about Yellow massage. I only mentioned yellow in my description of the place because the boys out front were wearing yellow shirts. It is opposite Dick's Cafe and the massage is only part of the establishment's business. I believe it is go-go also...called Xcite. This is what I originally wrote:
"I noted while walking through soi Twilight also this evening, that the boys in yellow shirts do massage at yet another massage place in that soi called Xcite... I think that's now 4 massage places there. Seemed good boys to me.".

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-- And where else should my tongue be, kind sir?

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