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21st December 1999 07:19 AM

I am new to this whole scene. In fact I met this guy on cfs board who advertised in Baltimore that he was a Service Station.I had been in fantasy mode for years about letting a guy suck me off but then this guy
Tom..(Pleasingu) did and I was in ecstasy.
The thing is this guy sucks my dick dry and takes every bit of cum in his mouth like it is food for the Gods. He does not seem to be
at all in fear of HIV and claims he is negative.
Apart of me really wants to stay away from this guy but he sucks dick so well I find myself paging him whenever I get away from the wife.
My question is this.....How safe is it for me to receive a blow job...Has anyone ever received HIV this way...Please don't put me down for maybe such a naive question, but it was only two months ago that I had any gay sex.
Chris


22nd December 1999 06:56 AM

You as the suckee can't get HIV this way. So relax and enjoy a great BJ. The sucker is the one at risk. Scroll up and see my post of October 13.

22nd December 1999 08:00 AM

Thank God for the men who enjoy leaning back and letting someone service them. Using my mouth and tongue and hands to give someone the best oral orgasm they've had in a month (or longer, sometimes) is a bigger delight than having an orgasm myself (though I like those, too, let it be said...) When I am in "service" mode, I really don't want reciprocation. I do enjoy verbal feedback, and being carressed (hair, neck, shoulders) is very nice, too.

I have been sucking cock for a very long time (since my older brother taught me how to do it by on-the-job-training, so to speak <g> ). I get checkups regularly, and have never had an STD (thank God, again).

Thanks for a chance to talk about it!
chicagoservicemaster

24th December 1999 06:39 AM

fyi: my partner and I have been together for 4 years and I found out 7 months ago I've been positive the whole time. He's swallowed more loads than I can count. I can, however count the number of loads I actually seen: only 6! I freaked when I found out I was positive, but not for me; for him. He is such a great guy and I love him to death. He was never very promiscuous but I was a total whore before we met. Truth be told: HE IS HIV NEGATIVE! I am so grateful. I don't know what the risks really are and I don't think anyone does. It's such a relative thing. For some any amount of risk is enough to consider it total and for some low means low. All I know is my own experience. And that is the my honey is negative and continues to swallow as long as he's comfortable with it. I will never pressure him and will allow him to continue to make his own choices without guilt. He is participating in the AIDSVAX trial too, so I'll cross my fingers. I love him and I don't want to harm him, but It's such a difficult issue for me. I know that intellectually, I can say "just don't let him suck you" but I am also smart enough to know that that don't mean shit when I'm hot and his mouth is open.
What do you all think?

24th December 1999 06:43 AM

also, for the record, I have been completely and totally honest with him about my status. We consider HIV "our" illness and not only mine. With this I also include my family and friends. I have never denied the impact that this may also have on them and can't take HIV proprietarily

27th December 1999 09:01 AM

I am interested in visiting a place with gloryholes and sucking a few cocks. I plan on requesting that the guys wear condoms. I will supply them. My question is: Which condoms seem to be the best for sucking on?

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2nd January 2000 04:54 AM

Hey Dy: In the early days of AIDS guys (top & bottom) used condoms for oral sex. But, it is pretty rare now. I'd be surprised if anyone at a video booth store, glory hole club, or sex club would let you put a rubber on it before you suck it. Just go for the dick you like, give it a lick, and check and see if there is much precum, or if it is a dry dick. There is not much chance of AIDS through a blowjob. The bigger question is whether to take the treat in your mouth and/or whether to swallow the load when you've worked so hard to get it. A lot of people believe that stomach acid does a pretty good job of killing viruses. Good luck. Keep us posted and what you decide to do.

17th January 2000 08:06 PM

My experience is similar to many of you. I got my first blowjob (not counting playing around with my pals as a undeveloped kid) in a bookstore through a glory hole. This was the first time I experienced someone swallowing my load. I was eighteen, and even with masterbating 2-3 times a day, I managed to deliver like I never had before. I felt as though I had been drained from the top of my head to the tip of my toes.

I was a naive and curious kid and went in the bookstore to see my first gay porn. That was back in the old days when booths were barely big enough for one person and the show was a shitty projector that projected onto an small panel in the booth. I still miss that familar sound of the projector purring!! I did not even have my dick out when I felt a subtle warm breeze on my hand. I didn't even know what a gloryhole was!! I felt this breeze again and felt the wall (the booth was too dark to see a thing) and found a hole just big enough for a cock. Needless to say, that was the beginning of many years of pleasurable no-name sex!!

Over a period of time I discovered that I liked sucking dick as much or more than I liked having my dick sucked. I never let anyone come in my mouth, but enjoyed the warm hard meat in my mouth just the same. One day I was taken by complete surprise by a young latino boy (man) that came within a minute or so. I had his cock deep in my throat when he released his load without warning. For a second I wanted to immediately pull away and spit it out, but the incredible feeling of that fat cock pulsating it's load overwhelmed me. This boy had a huge load of the sweetest cum I have ever had the pleasure to swallow! I have been hooked ever since! Kinda like the coke addict that always wants to get that perfect high, the last 20 years of my life have been spent searching for the perfect load, and I have encountered many!

Now that I have you all hot and bothered, I will tell you this:

I recently was tested and remain HIV-. I have swallowed untold amounts of cum over the past two decades, and even had a lover for 6 months that called me 8 months after we stopped seeing each other from the hospital to tell me he had phnumonia and was full-blown. I had swallowed him probably 100 times in the six months we saw each other. I immediately went for testing and, after the scare of my life, was thankful to God that I tested negative. The waiting was horrible and I cryed myself to sleep many nights thinking that the only test result possible would be positive. I continue to get tested about every 6 months.

I also have very little experience with being fucked, and insist on condoms and lube when the rare occasion comes up. More recently I had a lover for 4 years and we had a little agreement, he could only fuck me on holidays! I don't enjoy it but will from time to time give in to be hospitable. Next thing I knew the little fucker was inventing all sorts of holidays! (He was from Mexico and you know how those guys are with holidays and celebrations!!) Madonna's "Holiday" was his theme song!

Back to the subject of this post, although there is risk in contracting HIV through oral contact, I must agree that it must be a very low risk. The combination of saliva and stomach acid contributes greatly to warding off infection. Once while being tested and discussing my sex life (as anyone who has been tested knows they like to do), the doctor said not to worry about what makes it to the stomach because the virus is very fragile and will die on contact with stomach acid. She also warned to try not to take cum in your mouth because of transmission through cuts,sores, poor gums, raw throat, etc.

Well, that is my two cents worth. There is risk in life, but try to keep it to a minimum! At the same time, enjoy life while you are here because you never know when it is time to move on. I will continue to search for the perfect load, and will reward my tastebuds and stomach during the hunt!

Health, Peace and Love to ALL-

28th January 2000 06:54 AM

What about the risk of getting AIDS from having your ass eaten? I haven't seen any information on this?

28th January 2000 10:13 PM

The risk from rimming was answered by my doctor when I asked. The risk for transmission of AIDS is quite low. Yes, since the AIDS virus basically infects all cells it is present in feces and alimentary canal mucous.
However, the bigger risks involve Hepatitis, parasitic disease, and diseases associated with human waste (Dysentery, Cholera, etc.). Minimizing these risks revolves again around knowing your partner and their behaviors, cleanliness, vaccination, using dental dams, and having regular doctor checkups and tests to detect any of the associated risks.
All forms of sexual activity with the exception of j/o carries a risk of exposure to a multitude of bacteria, virus, etc. Knowing the risks and dealing with them effectively requires an open dialogue with your doctor. Also make sure your doctor stays up on latest developments and news associated with AIDS and other contagions. Some do, some do not.

30th April 2000 12:15 PM

There is a very good discussion of the risks of oral sex at
http://www.tht.org.uk/pubs/oralsex.htm

4th March 2001 11:11 PM

Hello, this is Dick 13, the moderator of this forum. I have just updated my website 'HIV and Oral Sex.' It discusses the risks of oral sex, answers the question, "can I get HIV by getting sucked?" It tells you how to recognize if you're recently infected and discusses the latest treatment strategies. Check it out at http://www.bigfoot.com/~fdjk/

7th March 2001 03:16 PM

Sorry, I had the wrong URL for the HIV and Oral Sex website. It should be http://www.bigfoot.com/~fdjk

12th March 2001 06:22 AM

My drill on swallowing. I always let the guy Im sucking cum in my mouth. Im 66, I've sucked maybe 4000 cocks in my lifetime, probably 1000 since 1980--although from 1985 to 1996 I was militantly celebate-- --I may also have been insane, but mostly I was diabetic and had lost my libido along with any tesosterone to speak of-- --anyway tesosterone replacement therapy got me back on the right track of suckin dick as relentlessly as possible--and so far I'm HIV-.

I never brush my teeth or floss on the day I'm going to suck the bone. After I suck every cock I gargle with a little Listerine, and swallow a small amount. After any stud cums in my mouth I quickly rinse out my mouth with water, then I gargle and swallow a small amount of 1% Hydrogen Peroxide (I dilute 1 part drug store 3% with 2 parts of water and take it with me to the baths) and swallow a little of it.

My theory being that even if there is some exposure to the virus in the mouth and esophagus, it must take some little amount of time for the virus to penetrate, and Hydrogen Peroxide is a good viruscide, and if applied quickly enough should kill it along with any other pathogens that may lurk, spirochetes, gonnococci.

I stress I am a layman with only limited scientific knowledge, and in this case a little learning may indeed be a dangerous thing.

Peace,

SuckH0LE

1st April 2001 12:01 PM

I'm a 26 year old man who loves to take loads down his throat, I know it's risky but I do it anyway, when at the baths I'll take a little of the load on my tongue and let the rest shoot over my face and beard making sure to let a lot of oxygen in as the virus is anarobic (sp? OK so I don't use technical terms on a daily basis!) I'm very glad to see a discussion on this topic as this is probably the activity that makes me remember a sexual encounter the most, I've shot a load myself from just feeling a guy shoot in my mouth, and the first man who shot his load in my mouth was a beautiful bear friend of my partner and I (open relationship), my partner knows I swallow. So I guess my point is to thank everyone who has shared their stories and comments, I've appreciated them all.

Blessed Be friends, MEKBear

1st April 2001 10:08 PM

I really enjoy RECEIVING Oral Sex, but there are so many conflicting accounts on here,
so is it safe to be "sucked" or not?
That is the question...........

2nd April 2001 12:44 PM

I have several posts higher up on the subject. This is coming from an MD. It is safe to get sucked, re HIV. The sucker would have to have bleeding gums and sharp teeth before you would get into trouble.

HOWEVER, If the sucker has oral herpes/cold sores, you can be infected. If he has gonorrhea of the throat, you can get it after a few good thrusts into his mouth, or a few licks of your piss hole (which we professionally refer to as the external urinary meatus). You can get syphillis. You can get hepatitis B. And probably a couple of other nasties. And more likely than not, you can get off and have a fun time.

Sex carries risks. Gay sex carries risks with some interesting twists. But overall, getting sucked tends to be fairly safe. Dr. Danny

3rd April 2001 08:35 AM

so is it safe to be "sucked" or not?
That is the question...

From an HIV standpoint, yes it is safe. For more information go to: http://fdjk3.homestead.com/oral_risk.html

9th April 2001 10:17 AM

This has been a very informative, but also confusing discussion. I myself am an avid cocksucker and have sucked over 200 cocks in the last 10 years -- I am thankfully disease free, but for the first seven years of my cocksucking life I always used a condom when sucking or getting sucked, in the last few years, I've stopped using condoms, but I have never swallowed or let a guy cum in my mouth.

I have two questions that I'm hoping people out there can address

1) To the people who have become HIV + purely through oral sex (particularly burghboy); did you let guys cum in ur mouth and/or swallow?

and

2) Does anyone know how much risk there is for other diseases through oral sex?


15th April 2001 08:37 AM

Well, Max, I've been sucking cocks since 1966, and I've had both Hepatitis A and B (and have fully recovered from both, fortunately), mono, venerial warts (in the corners of my mouth, no less), several bouts of prolonged generalized maliase and some throat thing that I had for about four months back in 1988 that three ear-nose-throat specialists never were able to diagnose. It eventually went away on it's own.

Still HIV-negative though, knock on wood. I get checked regularly, not only for HIV but for a host of other venerial diseases.

I still suck cock though. It is stupid ? Sure. Why do I keep doing it anyway ? I've got this thing, man, I love to suck cock. Will I pay the big price for it some day ? Probably. Will I regret it when it happens ? Absolutely.

16th April 2001 07:06 PM

starlite starbright will this be he cock that does me in tonite?, I wish I May I might be able to suck many more dicks tonite. Tomorrow tomorrow theres more dick tomorrow I'm only a gargle away.Hickory dickory dock the mouse whipped out this awsome cock I could of said no But he knew I was a hoe(smile)

19th April 2001 09:32 AM

Can I get any other STD's besides AIDS from having my dick sucked?

I'm a mostly straight guy who has had his dick sucked by guys a couple of times and loved it.

Thank you

20th April 2001 02:03 PM

I've just finished reading all 7 pages of this topic. Quite interesting and informative. I'm 59 years old and discovered man2man sex only about 5 years ago. I'm liking it more and more as I discover and explore its many facets. I'm married, happily, and desirous of not aquiring something that would reveal my unfaithfulness.

In m2m sex, I have gravitated more and more to getting sucked off. At first I didn't know that many guys love to suck and do not need or want reciprocation. Then I learned of it, but couldn't understand it. This forum has helped me to understand cocksuckers better, and now I'm quite willing to accept blowjobs without feeling guilty about not giving back in kind. Btw, I'd love to find women who would give me head or any other kind of sex, but they are not easy to find compared to guys.

I have found a few "regulars" who I call or get called by and enjoy their service. Also, I like going to Dr. Video in stl county, where there (almost) always are guys ready and willing to suck my dick. I consider myself fortunate to have equipment that is universally admired and praised by cocksuckers!

Speaking of my dick, here's something interesting. Before I started m2m sex, I'd had sex with approximately 35 women and not one of them had commented significantly on my dick size. Therefore, I never suspected there was anything unusual about it. I've now had sex with around 100 guys, and around 90% have expressed admiration. To repeat, I'm 59 years old; I wish I'd have discovered m2m sex sooner -- or do I?

21st April 2001 09:04 AM

Scientific findings are dandy, but I know what I do, Right now, I had oral surgery a few weeks agao and I'll wait another month before I suck another dick. I don't use condoms to suck because I'd rather lick a dildo if I'm going to have rubber in my mouth. I love the smell and feel of semen,, so I don't need to swallow cum, although I often lick a few smeared drops while I savor the aroma. I've done this for 23 years and am HIV-. Maybe I'm just lucky (so far) but I also limit my sex partners to fewer than 10 per year. I don't even know if this really matters. I just know that I'm happy living this way and I've taken every precaution I'm willing to take. I don't judge anyone else's behavior, and I realize that my sex practices could be "healthier"--but then so could my diet.

21st April 2001 03:34 PM

Premiscuose sex comes with its roulet table ,We were making "love" to me. Me (blk) and this white guy in the park,Kissing,tits,ears,balls,neck and crotch everything back and forth to each other ,He 35 me 45. When I was sucking his dick he was so charged and verbal " Common Baby suck that juice from my balls "It was hot shot time, caution to the wind.When he started to cum he tried to pull away but I grabbed his ass and he burried his dick into my mouth and he busted a huge nut!.I came all over the ground.I told him he inspired me to do that then I whipped out my small container of mouth wash.I've made my peace about eventually passing on from old age or desease for sure we are all going.it does'nt mean I want to succum to a fatal anything but thats fate "I was thinking about asking miss Cleo.

24th April 2001 09:56 AM

Hate to rain on your parade guys but it's not just HIV we have to be concerned about.

We are all concerned about HIV transmission -- but it's not just HIV that concerns me when getting or giving an unprotected blow job. Syphilis in gay men is on the increase in S California -- if you suck a guy with a chancre(syphilis lesion) on his dick you might get your lesion in your mouth, lips or tongue -- then pass it on to another guy you suck after some time passes. I think from 3 weeks to a month or more -- not sure about that.

Herpes can also be transmitted via blowjobs --
Ever had a case of throat gonorrhea -- that can come from blowing a guy, carrying the organism in his urethral tract, which is then carried into your throat when you swallow cum.

Check with your local health department for details -- denial does not do it for me. :eek:

31st May 2001 04:34 AM

What a great thread!!! These discussions really get me hot and hard. I'm 56yo and have been sucking cock since I was 15. I swallowed that first load then and don't think I've spit more than 5-10 loads out since then. I've had a few cum so hard in in such great quantity that with their cocks in my mouth I cant swallow fast enough and it just leaked out. Most of the time tho I've always rinsed and gargled soon afterwards with listerine or peroxide/water solution. I really must have a guardian angel since I've never contracted any disease. (yet)(knock on wood, etc.)
:D

cutguy 6th June 2001 10:22 AM

:) The info your doctor gave you was as correct as we currently understand it.

Yes, there is SOME HIV in saliva, but probably not enough to infect the skin cells of the penis. There is a hell of a lot more HIV concentrated in 1 squirt of semen than there is in say tears or saliva.

There seem to be inhibitory proteins in the saliva which further impead the spread. The virus is pretty delicate, and after you have blown your wad, you usually pull out and either clean up or dry up. No conducive to HIV survival.

With receptive anal intercourse, i.e. almost the same thing as oral, just that the geography is a little different, you don't have the inhibitory proteins, the rectal mucosa is always going to get abraided, exposing more HIV to your penis, and more penile skin is rubbed against the gut wall than is going to happen when you are getting blown. (Teeth as protection from transmission??)

Obviously, it isn't fool proof, there are a few cases of oral transmission of HIV reported, but usually to the guy who is doing the sucking.

This at the moment is the best info I can offer. Dr. Danny


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