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Old 9th August 2011, 11:41 PM
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Wink The evolution of the "straight" gay

I've been working in adult bookstores (ABS) for over twenty years with the last 17 years here in Marcy, NY. During this time, I have noticed a regular pattern I refer to as "The Evolution of The 'Straight' Gay". I would like to share this theory with you.

This theory does not apply to those who recognize themselves as gay and enjoy it. However, I have noticed that a lot of young men first coming into the ABS to experience the video booths exhibit an almost homophobic attitude. They are interested in seeing pussy and wanton women.

Just a word about the setup for our booths. Most of our video booths have plexi-glass viewing windows with shutters (local laws prohibit glory holes). Also, I mix the genre of the videos by channel; straight, gay, straight, lesbian, straight, straight, gay, straight, bisexual, straight, gay, straight, transgender, straight. I change 1/3 of the movies each day to keep the selection fresh. I can see on the system monitor what movie is playing in each booth and when they change the channel.

The newbie will either select a booth without a window or shut the shutter. As he flicks through the channels; he dwells on the straight and maybe lesbian, but flicks quickly through the gay and other stuff. His door is locked and he wants nobody bothering him.

After a few visits, I might notice that he will not be as quick to jump over the alternative sex channels. Maybe he watches a little of the bisexual (he'll say it's just for the girl in it) or the transgender (rational: he actually thought that was a woman). Give him a few more visits, and he might start to watch the gay channels (he remarks that seems only men know how to really give a blowjob). He's beginning to change, but he will try to reinforce his straightness by booking a session with our live female models. While there is no sexual contact with the females in this repressive society, he can jerk off looking at her as a straight.

After a while, this will not be enough and he will get comfortable enough to leave his window open (just wants those gay guys to see what they can not have). He might "forget" to fully close and lock the door, affording passerbys a chance to see him jerking off. However, any attempt at this point to enter his booth will snap him back to straight mode with a quick closure of the door and flipping the lock.

It might start simply. At home, he'll envision those male on male blowjobs as he jerks off. But soon, he is wondering what it would be like to get sucked off by another guy. He'll make a comment like all throats are the same. The next time he is at the ABS, he won't shy away when someone enters his open booth. He'll figure as long as he doesn't touch the other guy, that sucker is the gay one not him. The first time he gets his dick sucked by an experienced man, he will be hooked.

At this point he might begin to wonder what he has been missing. Not yet ready to suck dick himself, he wonders what getting fucked would feel like. He might pick up a vibe or dildo on the way out with the comment that it is for his wife/girlfriend. That piece of plastic will be going up his ass before the end of the first night.

His fantasies will involve fewer and fewer women, and begin to relieve the male sex he saw on videos as he jerks off. It might be a small change the next time he is visiting the ABS and somebody approaches him to give him a blowjob. He might touch them in subtle ways; run his hands over the head of the sucker to get a deeper penetration or maybe rub his back in response. He will see the joy that the guy on his knees gets while sucking his dick and swallowing his load. He'll wonder if he is missing something.

Within the next few visits, he will return the favor. At first, it might be just a little hand action, jerking the sucker to climax. Later, he will be the one on his knees sucking dick to the root and swilling sweet cum loads. With a little encouragement, a life long cock sucker will be born.

Taking a dick up the ass is a major step that will probably not occur for a lot of these guys till quite a bit later in their evolution, and it will depend on how the first guy to pop his anal cherry handles the job as to whether he will include that as a regular part of his sex life. However, he will progress from straight to willing cock sucker. Some guys evolve within a couple of months, others might take a year.

As with any theory, there are exceptions to the rule. However, I am just commenting on the general course I see among the hundreds of men that have come to our stores over the years. He will enjoy the gay sex in the privacy of the booths, but maintain a straight veneer to the outside world. I am amazed at the number of times I have known a guy was getting blown, and then he comes up complaining that those "queers" were bothering him as if to reinforce he don't roll that way. I just nod and let him live his fantasy.

As always, your comments are welcome.
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Old 11th August 2011, 11:53 PM
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Wow - I've never been to NY, but you may as well have been talking about me! I used to go to the ABS all the time. Was creeped out by notes in the booths by men looking for men. Then one evening after spending an hour at a strip club, I headed to the ABS looking to j/o. To my surprise I was confronted by a man. He often hung out at the diner where I worked. He asked me if I wanted a bj. Now I realized why he hung out where so many young men worked! I was buzzed. I thought "why not?" So I got in his car. He began rubbing my cock. I was so hard I was ready to explode. He drove to a remote area and began sucking me off. By far the bet bj I have ever had. No hands. Just slowing bobbing the full length of my shaft. I remembered how intense it was when I finally blew my load - deep in his throat. Of course I was tempted to reciprocate, but chickened out. Years passed and I continued to hit the book stores and as you said, I was not as quick to skip over bi, tranny and gay porn. While I never bought a dildo, I experimented with various objects. I even remember a guy walking in on me and being too stupid to invite him into my booth! The couriousity got the best of me and I became obsessed with sucking cock. I remember going to the ABS and finally hooking up. Looking back over those years, I never imagined I would be on my knees in an ABS booth with who knows how many loads of dried cum on the floor! The fact is I don't find myself in position to hook up too often these days and I'm not 100% comfortable with the thought of having a cock up my ass. But my fantasies are vivid at times and I wonder what would happen if I were in the right place at the right time...
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Old 14th August 2011, 01:43 PM
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I very much agree with the basics of your theory here. It really describes a variety of the phenomenon known as "situational homosexuality". Whereas your customers may be really free to go out and try to hook up with women as opposed to the guys in the barracks, prisons and alike, many people are simply opportunists.

Going out and trying to hook up for sex with a female is usually both time and money consuming. Rare commodities these days.

ABS is usually inexpensive, handy and practical. Sure, at first you may not really dig the choices available, but once you look into the matter more closely, you still get a sexual release with minimal use of your resources. It does not take a rocket scientist to figure out that the system actually works very well, is fast, inexpensive and has hardly any drawbacks since all of it is NSA.

Once you realize that you do NOT have to do much to get what you want; and that you can get it almost at any place and at any time, yeah, your whole life changes. You stop being hostage to the usual patterns of thinking that impose significant burden of obligations upon you in exchange for a fuzzy promise of occasional sexual pleasure.

By default, this also works for self-identified gay men who were also influenced to believe that they should marry, or live in LTRs in order to secure (among other things), some semblance of regular and easy sex.

When you really come to think about it, a dude, gay or str8 alike who allows anyone to hold him captive over his need or desire to have sex, is seriously underinformed.

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Old 14th August 2011, 08:20 PM
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It would utterly offend much of the gay rights agenda, but there is probably a very simple explanation for this phenomenon. Humans, regardless of inclinations sexually, are far more fluid. The gay movement simply swapped one forced box for another. The real and lasting liberation will come when we refuse to fit into any box.
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That is what I have been saying for 40 years now. Cut the crap with labels and protected categories. Across-the-board equality, dignity, and respect for *everyone*.
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Old 20th August 2011, 06:46 AM
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Being horney makes you open to a larger range of sexual experiences. Not rocket science.
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Old 20th August 2011, 06:45 PM
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This is only a suprise to Americans and other Westerners that have bought into popular notions of "sexual orientation".

Here are some sites that elaborate:

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Old 21st August 2011, 04:06 PM
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This is a good observation on your part. Alot of MARRIED men, especially the older guys come to ABS's or theatres and bring out that secret sexual desire to have man4man sex. As someone wrote it's easier and quicker to get a guy to go down on you then it is to get a girl to do the same. I still believe though it won't be long and the single girls that come into a ABS will find themselves going into the arcade to explore quicky sex as well. It is rare but single women have mingled with the crowd at theatres but that is still rare. Couples are starting to move to the arcade for quick hook ups though.
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Old 28th August 2011, 03:04 PM
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So many are curious....

Or maybe played younger...

But it takes awhile to get up the courage to make the move.

I remember on a business trip a guy walked into my booth. Startled the hell out of me even though I had thought about the fact I had a hotel room nearby...

I freaked for a moment and by the time I thought about it and went to find him he was gone...

Yet another missed opportunity.
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