I am very inexperienced but I know what I am looking for. I would like a massage boy that is a top likes to give and receive oral and has a larger than average cock. Not looking for a fem and I am not interested in kissing. I hope that is specific enough. From what I have read the ambassador sounds good as does Hero or the likes..

Please help if you have a recommendation as I don't where to start and I don't have the free time to really investigate.

I did post another request a few weeks ago and the response to my vague question did not really help. I went to a sauna on a recommendation and I just don't think that I am ready for that. I need a few more one on one experiences first.

Thanks!

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I wouldn't expect the masseurs at the Ambassador to give oral. The other places, sure.

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u might wanna try HERO or ARENA or maybe Albury. Just tell the mamasan that u r looking for a top and has a large cock.

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...ask for Leo or Matt at Turning Point/Dinner, Sukhumvit soi 23. Matt is darker, slimmer but also newer at the game, and so may be an inexperienced partner. Leo is lighter, taller...how long he's been working, I don't know.

Neither will be able to give massage, but if a big tool is what you're looking for, a big tool is what you'll be getting.

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My experience with masseur's has been that the chemistry between the two of you and how busy the boy has been that week/night hinges on the result.I have enjoyed guy's erect from start to finish (not too often) and others who have been good masseurs but in a hurry to get the "happy ending" over.Albury and Hero are the best bets.The quality of line-up can change overnight but this month I give my vote to Albury for hunks with Hero not far behind.

BTW.What approach do you take if you go to a massage venue and you are indifferent to those on offer that night?I have compromised on a couple of occasions and in a confined space like Arena or Andy's Man it is daunting to walk out if you are the only customer.

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I don't have any problem saying "maybe next time" (politely) if I don't find anything to my liking. There is no obligation to buy something you're not into, so don't feel like you are.

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anyone has a field reports on andy's men and the massage place in silom plaza not arena, the other one?

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You may notice that the worse the massage skills, the more likely they are to make up for it with sex and visa versa. Also, some boys may just have limits, whether it be because they have Boyfriends or other reasons, some are not willing to do oral or anal. Some of this, as stated, may depend on chemistry between the boy and the customer. I know one boy that is a very good, trained masseur and generally only gives hand jobs. But, if he gets a particularly handsome customer to his liking, he may "join in" and jack off too. But thats his limit. Best to ASK FIRST, so as not to be disappointed.

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Went there once. Was expecting the same standard as Albury, since it is/was advertised as having the same owner. What a letdown. The place was more a dump than most massage places in the Silom area, tend to be more cramped, being in a heavily built-up part of the city. Not only was the place in less than acceptable condition, the room they assigned me had no working airconditioning, paint peeling off walls, and lights wrongly positioned overhead such that they got into your eyes once you turn over. We couldn't entirely switch them off as the room would be picth black then.

The massage was perfunctory, the sex was little more than "I fuck you, ok?" with few other options in his skill set.

As I said, went there once. Can't imagine a twice.

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I've gotta agree with the above. There's no reason whatsoever to go to Andy's Men or to His (the "other" one in Silom Plaza) when there are so many other, better places around.

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Which begs the question of: where?

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Arena, Albury, Hero, GQ, Aqua, or Zeazon (when it reopens).

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Thank you for all the replies...I was just curious if anyone can recommend a few boys for me to try that meet what I am looking for. Thanks again for the help. To recap...I am lookign for a good massage with with oral/oral and top guy with larger cock.

For the record I am a straight guy that like many has the need to explore my sexuality with other men. What a turn on to suck/fuck other guys when I have only very limited experience. I have been with a few katoies but never a masculine guy. I would not ask for recommendations for women or even where to go as I am comfortable with that scene and have no problems there...it is just that I am inexperienced with the guys and I am looking for a little direction to help me get to where I want to go.

Cheers...

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In that case, go to either Arena or Aqua. Leave Hero or Albury, good though they are, for later. The reason I say this is that the person who can best help you is the "mamasan", or the supervisor, but at Hero and Albury, he tends to be too busy to give you much attention as these two places generally have a lot of customer traffic. Arena and Aqua are less busy, but still have a good selection of masseurs of various body types, including the "manly" kind. Being less busy, the mamasan can devote a bit more time to helping you choose.

I don't think anyone on this board can really recommend any specific masseur, because these guys change jobs frequently, or go back to the provinces for the rice planting/harvesting season, and so on. Not to mention, it's hard to tell what your taste in the male physique is. What's hunky to you may not be hunky to me, for instance.

What I'd recommend you do is to go to Aqua or Arena in the mid afternoon (which I assume isn't the peak period, perhaps others on this board can correct me if I'm wrong), and ask to speak to the mamasan.

It is impossible for the mamasan to describe to you every masseur that he has in his stable, but what you can do, after ordering a drink (in effect buying yourself time to decide) is to glance over whichever boys come into view. If you like the look of any particular one, just ask the mamasan question such as,

"The guy in the blue shorts with short hair, standing near the treadmill... does he have a large cock? Will he be able to suck me? Will he let me suck him? Will he let me fuck him?"

"Oh, what about the one that just came out from that door there? The tall guy with a white t-shirt and a buddha pendant?"

It is the mamasan's job to know answers to such questions. If you notice any pause from the mamasan, it indicates he isn't sure. Then beware of Thai cultural problems. Rather than admit he's not sure, he is likely to say yes to your every question. He's likely to tell you what he thinks you want to hear. If this happens, gently ask him to please double-check with the boy you have indicated, whether he's prepared to do what you have in mind.

Even if the mamasan knows the boy's cock size and skill sets well, it is still important to somehow convey your requests to the masseur. As the mamasan will have a better command of English than most masseurs, it is better to have the mamasan translate your requests beforehand, rather than wait till you're alone with the massuer in the room trying to get yourself understood, and breaking the rhythm and mood of the session.

For example, you can tell the mamasan that you want to masseur to give you an erotic sensual massage, and for him to proceed without interruption, without waiting for any signal from you, to caressing and sucking.

"Could you please translate my request and let the boy know in advance?"

You can frame your request with words like, "I'm new to Thailand, and I don't know what is the custom here, so I wish to make things clear before any misunderstanding happens."

Finally the mamasan will ask you whether you want an oil massage or a cream massage, whether it's for 1 hour or 90 minutes, and other such details. Prices vary.

In Arena or Aqua, expect to tip the masseur personally a further 1,000 to 1,200 baht for his services. I don't think he earns any salary.

Now, some words to moderate your expectations. My observations are these:

1. Avoid boys who have only been working 1 month or less. They tend to be less skilled in making the transition from massage to sex, and tend to wait for a signal from you. I have no problem giving the signal, but you may not know when is the appropriate time to do so, and what kind of signal to give. Thus you may fell more relaxed and go-with-the-flow if you have someone who is practised enough to make the transition smoothly on this own.

2. Almost all masseurs will be happy to be sucked.

3. The great majority will be prepared to suck, though some will insist on a condom, which is good practice anyway.

4. Perhaps a majority of masseurs will be prepared to fuck - I'm not able to give much information on this as fucking is seldom my scene.

5. Perhaps few "manly" masseurs are prepared to be fucked. Most are also straight themselves, and for reasons of ego, will not play the submissive role. This means that if you want to fuck someone, you may have to settle for one who is on the "soft" side, unless you're lucky and you get the rare muscle mary.

Hope the above is helpful.

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Just a differing opinion to the one above re mama-san particularly at Hero I have never found the mama-san too busy and generally this is true also at Albury.Their recommendations are close to the mark and they will even steer you away from an incompatable or ordinary masseur.Aqua is particularly evasive as far as extras are concerned:"Up to you and the boy".Arena mumbles whatever you need to hear.At Aqua you get called "darling" a bit too much and they meaninglessly say "he's great sex" without being specific.I have found them to be inaccurate.Of course mama-san personnel change but this has been my experience.For a more colourful assesment of the mama-san at V Club Icon may like to add a comment.

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