That's exactly why I haven't been back
 

That's exactly why I haven't been back to HIS massage in 2 - 3 years. The masseur demanded 2,000 baht because he cummed for me. Of course I resisted; in fact, I promptly deducted 100 baht from my usual tip to "reward" him for his gall.

HIS Bangkok also off my list permanently. Twice had same experience of demand 'minimum tip plus extra 1,000' because boy came. After about 2 years I relinquished and went back, maybe six months ago. Place was unmanaged, boys in control and in chaos. Chose one boy who promised everything and delivered zero and talked all the time about extra tip / special boy. In fact I finished the very poor quality massage after 15 minutes and showered. Gave the boy 200 and got a lot of loud abuse. Never again.

HIS in Chiang Mai is a different story, always great. Last time, about 6 weeks back they had about 25 boys. Photos indicate AOP etc. Many boys willing to do everything, mostly young (18+) masculine boys. Always friendly, seem to be well focused on customer satisfaction. One young man (CM Uni student) agreed to bring two student friends (not gay bar workers) to my hotel early the next afternoon). They were both quite masculine, inexperienced but keen to try anything for some fun, and not shy to work on each other. Very nice three hours.

-- Most evenings I walk past 'JIM's PUB.' in Soi Than Tawan, (it's in the same row of shop-houses as 'Indra Massage.' but is nrer. to 'Coca Rest't.'.),. In the small and open entce. area, where the girls sit-out, are two signs: one for Foot-reflexology and the other for Aroma-oil massage.
- Their barker: Ping-pong, early 20s. - and I generally spend a few moments chatting. For the last several weeks he's been trying to get me to avail of their massage svce.: Khun Thai, and just 20YO.!. Eventually I succumbed to his blandishments and we agreed that I'd come-around on sat.,(27th.), between 20.30 & 21.oo.hrs. for a 90mins'. oil-massage.
- I saw him again on the sat. forenoon and re-confirmed the time, wch. he ack'd..
- I arr'd. at approx. 20.45.hrs. and was told that the masseur was on his way and would arrive in 30mins'. time. My face must have given-away my thoughts for Ping-pong amended that immediately to ten mins..
- I went-away and ret'd. after a further 15mins. - having allowed an extra for BKK's. tfc. - ha!
- I was ushered inside, offered drinks, the company of some of their ladies and so on - doubtless all to a purpose.
- After a further ten mins. I got-up and left.
- Dilemma, where to go and what to do? I didn't feel like walking all the way to either 'ARENA.' or to 'HIS.' - anyway, on a sat. evening probably all their better masseurs would have been taken by the time that I would have arr'd.. So that left either 'INDRA.' or 'PRIME.' - after last sat's. experience in 'PRIME.' I made-up my mind!
-- bibi..

-- After the disappointment with 'Jim's Pub.' I went to 'INDRA MASSAGE.' on Soi Than Tawan, and was assigned to masseur VIEW, a young looking, tallish and slim man on whom I've had my eye for some time. 27YO. from I-San; speaks quite fair enough English for conversations; has been working there for approx.3mos.; lives alone in an appt. on Rama III rd.; formerly married and with a 5YO. daughter who's with his family.
- A fair enough massage, during wch. and unasked he removed his masseur's trousers.
- To better massage my shoulders he stood at my head - so I accepted the invitation. The usual Th. boi std. issue and uncut.
- The 'Extra svce..' was nothing about wch. one would write home: an hand-job wch., despite my taking a 'G7.' tablet earlier, (see 'Herbal Viagra.' thread.), produced no extra special results.
- I spoke with the lady at the 'Receipt of customs.' and gave her the info. for the web-page for the 'Spartacus Int'l. Guide.' who are soliciting entries for next yr's. ed'n., and in the hope that she'll avail of their offer and thus obtain MORE customers so that that place will continue in business.
- Having decided that enough was enough I abandoned any plans for a further night out.
-- bibi..

-- This time, before going to 'INDRA MASSAGE.' for my usual monday evening's massage, I resolved not to take any pills, tablets etc. but just to allow Mother Nature to do her own thing in her own way.
- I arr'd. just before 21.oo.hrs. and was offered masseur VIEW, but as he massaged me on the preceeding sat. I asked for the next masseur available and was offered masseur TAHM, (pronounced with a long 'A.' as in 'Psalm.'.), 18YO. from I-San; speaks little English so we didn't enjoy much of a conversation.
- A competent massage,
- In fact as soon as he'd moved-around to the top of the massage table I couldn't help but notice that he's another one who likes plenty of att'n. - so that in the end I felt like a combination of Dyson, Electrolux & Hoover! I haven't enjoyed such a prolonged and thorough massage of my neck and shoulders for such a long time - ha!
-- bibi..

Yesterday lunchtime, in Silom with a couple of hours to kill before a flight to KL, I thought I would give Bonny a try, it being a few years since I crossed that particular threshold.

I was met by the lad that seems to have been there forever (tall, skinny, short cropped hair and round Chinese looking face) who led me to the room. I have known him for a few years and tended to have a bit of friendly banter whenever I was passing, but that may have come to an end...

As mentioned elsewhere in this thread, the boy does indeed shower you, but he kept his towel on throughout. Then followed a massage that can only be described as crap - no effort, interest or energy expended.

Before I knew it, I was on my back and the inevitable began - in and out was obviously his plan (as in me out the door). In fact, I was back at the reception within 40 minutes of arriving - and he had the cheek to complain that a 500 bht tip was not enough. I kept my temper but pointed out the time to him. He laughed sheepishly and said "Up to you."

To cap it all, in the very short period I was naked, I still managed to get 3 mosquito bites that are still causing me grief! Never again.

BONNY
 

Bonny - mixed experiences.

Maybe three years ago - selected very masculine boy with very beautiful body. Showered etc, he's sitting on my cock and moaning within one minute, continued for at least 30 minutes then mutual sucking then consumed my cock again until he came.

Then demanded 5,000. I paid 1,500 and left with lots of abuse from boy and manager

Every other visit (after change of management), i guess four times, no service whatever. One boy even horrified that i tried to touch him, and told me angrily that I was not nice person. Every time demands for 3,00 - 5,000 etc.

Never again - Bonny now on on my totally forever banned list.

As I've reported before, I've also had absolute CRAP experiences at Bonny. Now, I just laugh at them when they're out front of the place trying to lure me in. I'd go without a massage before I'd EVER cross their threshold again. And, as long as I'm up here on this soapbox, I can also tell you that the massage place right down the soi from Bonny (maybe called Red...or something like that) is no better. They don't do a line-up, you take who they give you and don't expect anything extra. They're absolutely appalled at the suggestion. Since there are plenty of good massage places available, avoid Soi Twilight altogether.

Anywhere
 

So, after all of that, is there anywhere that guys CAN recommend for now??

Arena (mostly straight guys)
Aqua (mostly gay guys)
Hero (mostly straight guys)
Albury (mostly straight guys)
Banana Club (mostly gay guys)
B&N (mostly straight guys)
Body Club (mostly gay guys)

Ditto everything Icon has said. And, add APSARA Day Spa on Silom....it's become quite festive lately.....mostly gay guys.

-- Ditto to e'thing. that Billinbkk. has written - but ADD 'INDRA MASSAGE.' on Soi Than Tawan, (opp. 'Tawan Men's Bar.'.), about wch. I've no complaints sofar and after trying eight or so of their 17 masseurs; also include 'BAAN TEWA.', S. Sathorn 7/1.,(behind SGP. Embassy.), where things are possible.
-- bibi..

Do those places let you choose your masseur, or are you assigned one?

Icon.....as APSARA' s clientelle has become more and more gay, they're now doing line-ups for you when you arrive. It's a bit cramped in their lobby, but they stand the boys far enough away from you so that you can get a good look. I've ALWAYS been able to get the lad naked and NEVER had any complaints about tip amounts, etc.

FOR ICON - RE BANANA CLUB
 

Icon. Re: Banana club.

You mentioned 'mostly gay' in a very recent post. Have you been there quite recently?

What do you mean by 'gay', for this establishment:

- Effeminate?
- Masculine behavior, but homosexual?

I took this place off my list a long time ago because it was full of loud effeminate boys - totally not my preference.

Look fwd to your comment, thanks.

Most of them are a bit fem, but they run the range from screaming fem to somewhat masculine. They also always have a couple straight guys. So, it's mostly a good place if you're looking for a twinky bottom that might be a touch fem.

MASSAGE COMMENTS PLEASE
 

Would you please share some comen ts

Aspara - Can someone please share address. I read somewhere they only have 4 boys - true??

NEW PLACE BEHIND S'PORE EMBASSY, SATHORN - I read this is a normal Thai massage place with girls and one or two boys - true?

GM MASSAGE - Phayonyothin - Read this place has only 4 boys - true?

Thanks for sharing comments

-- 'BAAN TEWA.',
S. Sathorn, soi 7/1. - behind SGP. Embassy,
Sathorn,
BKK., 10120..
- contact: (02)-679 0816. --- http://www.baantewa.com
- nrest. BTS.: Chong Nonsi, (S3.), approx. 10mins. walk away.
-- I spoke with Khun Kob, ('A cutie!' according to an SGPean.), last thu. and at that time he had three male masseurs, (business doesn't justify any more at the present.), and no plans to employ masseusses.
- He is g*y.
- He runs 'BT.' like 'Silom Massage.' or 'Candle T SPA.' are run - ie not like a male br*th*l or wh*r*h**s* but a managed parlor offering massages for g*y men by g*y masseurs and without any obvious hanky-panky, wch. would be something private just between the customer and his masseur - if agreeable to both.
- Above info. from the horse's mouth!

-- 'APSARA, (Si Lom.),
12/1-2, Si Lom rd., (next to 'Coffee society.' - a well-known & g*y-friendly meeting point and on the BTS. Sala Daeng stn. side of Si Lom 2.),
Si lom.
- contact: (02)632 6885-87.;
- BTS./MRT.: Sala Daeng, (S2.),/Silom.
- above info. from the freebie mag. 'GGlamour travel & leisure.',vol.I, #05..
-- 'GMEN MASSAGE.',
Phaholyothin soi 5.
- contact: (02)-619 8578. --- http://www.gmmenmassage.com
- BTS.: Ari, (N5.),.
- above info. from my 'Address book.'.

-- Not having visited either 'Apsara.' or 'GM Massage.' I have no knowledge of either qty. or qual. of their staffs.
-- E&OE.! ..
-- bibi..

I've been to APSARA several times. There are a LOT more than 4 guys there at any given time. The last time I was there, there were about 20 in the line-up, as well as all of the foot massage chairs in the front of the place being full....and several customers upstairs.

If you're not good with Thai addresses, APSARA is right next to the Burger King on Silom. You pass it when you're walking from the BTS to Burger King. There are always lots of guys sititng out on the street handing out literature.

Went to Body Club this afternoon. Around 15 guys lined up, most with shirts off. They seem to go for the lean, fit young str8 looking ones, most with taut, lithe bodies and short hair, just how I like them.

I chose a cute young thing called Bast from NE Thailand, nice, slim, smooth and a body all lean and muscly in a youthful rather than muscle-mary way.

His massage was very good, although more of a smoothing, creaming motion than firm, thai style.

After a good back massage, he turned me over but did not waste too much time before going to the action. Surprisingly enough, he was an enthusiastic kisser - not a trait many masseurs have, IMHO.

90 minute cream massage was 490 baht with minimum 500 baht tip. I gave him 1000.

GMen Massage
 

Well, since it didn't appear that anyone had ever experienced GM Massage, I decided to be the guinea pig late this afternoon. The place is VERY difficult to find and the map on their website isn't accurate at all. I finally ended up ringing them and had the mamasan talk to my taxi driver.

On the phone at 5.30, I asked the mamasan how many boys were there right them. He assured me that there were "25 boys now". So, you can imagine my surprise when I got there 30 minutes later and there were a grand total of TEN guys working.

The place is in a townhouse in a townhouse community. You'd never know it was there unless you were looking for it. There is a sign out front that says "GM" on it and that's it. There are no signs regrading massage, etc.

When you go in, you sit in what would normally be the living room. The guys are sitting one next to the other on a couch in the dining room. When I entered, not one of the guys even bothered to look up from the TV that they were all watching. There was absolutely NO eye contact or nods/smiles/winks from any of them.

I asked the mamasan for the guy with the biggest dick in the place. He was quite surprised by my request and asked me to repeat it....which I did. He told me "wait a minute" and went into the dining room to ask the guys if any of them was well hung. None of them was interested in an old fat farang, so none of them volunteered. Finally the all pointed at one guy and he relented and agreed to massage me.

The lad's name is "X", although he's got such a mouth full of braces that he can't say it. He has VERY VERY limited English. We went to the room and both of us got naked. I showered first and he followed. While he was in there, he put on a cock ring so that this dick would have some hope of getting hard.

X started by massaging (poorly) my back. He then moved to my ass. He ended up massaging with one hand so he could jerk his dick to get it hard enough to work. Within 10 minutes of beginning the massage, he asked if I wanted to get fucked. I told him "YES". He didn't even bring a condom or lube to the room with him. But, alas, I had some, so we used mine.

He was able to get his dick hard enough to get it in and fucked me for about 5 minutes. He then took it out and laid down on the massage bed to finish by jerking off.

My entire 90 minute massage, including pre and post showers lasted 25 minutes. After my post-shower, I sat down on the massage bed, wondering if he'd finish massaging me. That question was answered when he came out of the shower, put his clothes on and handed me my shirt.

They have 3 kinds of massage at this place, all of them are supposed to be 90 minutes and all of them cost 500 baht. They have printed right on the menu that the minimum tip for the boy is THB 1,000. I gave X 1,300...why I don't know.

I did notice 2 other customers while I was there. They were both hi-so Thai businessmen. There were also quite a few new full-size Mercedes Benz's parked outside.

If I didn't know better, I'd say that this place is a hi-so Thai businessman's place. I noticed that several of the guys in there had braces on their teeth. When I see that in a whorehouse, I always think "Kept boy".

I'll never return to this place and wouldn't recommend it to anyone.

Bill if you want a good fuck go to Body Club and ask for Thong!
He stay hard long. Sweet smile and gay. Say hello from Peter from Sweden

-- My Address Book notes 'BODY CLUB.',
4/24-25, Sukhumvit 8..
- contact: (02)-653 3942., (089)-171 9009..
- hrs.: 12.oo-22.oo.;
- BTS.: Nana,(E3.),.
- masseur: Tong.
- add'n. info. from freebie mag. GGlamour travel & leisure., Vol.I., issue05..
-- bibi

anyone tried andy's men in soi 2/1 where richards cafe/restaurant is? location would be great, but just wondering why there's no buzz about this place?

Andy's Man is one of the WORST whore houses in BKK, in my humble opinion. There are So many other choices available. I'd suggest passing on Andy's.

Apsara
 

I had a very nice massage at Apsara yesterday. As I was not looking for "extras", I am not certain whether they are provided but I had a feeling that they could be had.

Well, as previously suggested, I went to Body Club this afternoon. Khun Tong wasn't working today, so I asked the mamasan which of the lads had a big dick....my standard question. She had 3 of them raise their hands. Of course, I chose the totally twinky looking one.

I can now recommend Khun Joke. He's as smooth as a cue ball and is quite fem looking. He's an Issan boy and has very limited English. He told me that he has been working there for "one month and two days"...whatever that means.

The massage was so-so at best. But, OH MY GOD....does this lad know how to fuck!!!!! I left totally satiated and completely satisfied. And Joke seemed quite happy with my THB 1,400 tip.

So, if twinky looking, smooth fem guys with BIG cocks are your thing....Khun Joke is the answer.

ok ... we all like XL dicks. However, i prefer XL with hands that really know how to explore the body (ff)
Any suggestions ... yes i like my money's worth or manipulation & fireworks
Even 4 hands
Yes .... i;m into the full course .... not desserts only !!!***

Try Khun Lo at Aqua. He's got a whopper, and gives a good massage.

-- Icon,
- Thanks for this info., but how fresh is it?
- Khun Lo's name, of 'AQUA SPA.', was mentioned several months ago; I went thither and was told that no such person worked there.
- I reported this in a reply and a short correspondence ensued, after wch. nothing further.

-- Having one's masseur hung like an horse is all v. well, but if it's too big for one to accept or he doesn't know how to use it then it's wasted.
- Many yrs. ago in 'Club Baths.' in Tampa, Fl., there was a large sign:
It's not the size of your wand that matters but the magic that you do with it!'.
- Reassurance to those of us who are less well endowed.

-- bibi.

Saw him there last week.

-- Icon.,
- Thanks for your reply.
- On my next visit thither I must remember to ask for Khun Low in a basso profundo voice - ha!
- He is - if I remember aright - from I-San and is in his late 20s.?
-- bibi..

Would like to know the views of the massage consumers above about V club. I haven't been for a couple of years and the range then was pretty good (lucky me ? ) but the reception staff were a pain during that period. I know Icon is not a fan but a former regular here had a happy 2007 experience.

In the 90's this was a top draw place.

-- Continuing with my weekly newsletter about my massage experiences in 'INDRA MASSAGE.' I went there y'day., (mon.), evening.
- I was assigned to Khun Rahn, (note corr'n. to this boi's name! He has since left and moved-on to elsewhere.),: a tallish and pleasant looking young man - 25YO.; from I-San; working there for the last 7mos., during wch. he picked-up his Englsih OTJ., and wch. he speaks adequately enough for simple conversations; in the daytime works in Ekkami and comes to 'Indra.' in the evenings; a couple of sisters; shares acc'n. on S'vit.1..
- To a different room this time - same 6'.x8'. size; mattress on the floor; the temp'y. looking partition didn't reach all the way up to the ceiling and its door space was closed with a curtain - a certain lack of privacy between the two adjacent rooms, I felt; in fact I could see the shadow of that masseur on the ceiling as he massaged someone else therin; it's just as well that I don't cry-out during the 'Agony and the Ecstacy.' or indulge in those C*t*l*n* type of porn. film monosyllabic grunts: 'Yeah, man.', ' F*ck me real good, man.' and so on and so forth.
- A good massage, lingering just long enough at all the right places to let me know what was in Khun Rahn's mind. He'd removed his masseur's trousers during that time.
- Turning over it was time to get to know eachother better: he's been endowed with the usual and std.sized. TH. boi ****.
- Obviously he didn't want an 'Happy ending.' for himself but was quite prepared to give me one, for wch. - thanks to my taking a 'G7.' tablet beforehand - I didn't disgrace myself.

- - Afterwards talking with the manageress I gathered that the business is starting to pick-up - they have .21 masseurs available now - most of whom, to these eyes, looked to be slightly built and with 'twinky.' bodies, (and possibly not dissimilar outlooks?),.
- I suggested to her that many another manager would give his eye-teeth to occupy the pos'n. of 'Indra Massage.', being right oposite to the very well known 'Tawan Men's Bar.'. She wasn't so sure, alleging that 'Tawan.' didn't want her trying to poach their customers. I suggested that as they were offering different svces. that there'd be no real competition, but they could complement eachother? Apparently not so. She felt that as 'Tawan.' has been there for some 20yrs. they had a right of seniority - not something with wch. I agreed - but it's not my business. But reportedly a few of 'Tawan's.' customers do come-over after the perf. there.
-- bibi..

V CLUB

Yes, it was just excellent 10 years ago, and I had many excellent experiences there, including several off-site rendezvous with a very cute young waiter who was painfully shy but after several converstaions he agreed to meet me outside.

Then the place seemed to change from highly customer oriened to customers are a bit of a nuisance, along with this came a gatoey manager who though she was the most important person in the world and she had no hesitation whatever to pad the bill. This happened several times - one coffee but three coffees and a beer etc all on the bill. After some confrontation she would sort of agree that something was wrong but 'You will have to pay because It's impossible to cancel the chits, but never mind, I'll make sure it's ok next time', plus lots of "farang keeneo" comments.

Then I noticed service had gone way down with most of the boys.

On my second to last visit I inquired about the cute young man in the front garden. She dragged him inside against his protests that his brother was coming in just one minute to pick him up. I ended up quickly in the massage room with a very unhappy and quite upset young man. I quickly aborted the situation. When he reappeared at the front area the gatoey abused him and demanded he pay 200Baht fine. It turned out his brother was in fact waiting for him. I paid my bill and followed him outside and discretelly gave him the 200 Baht. All of this was maybe 4 years ago.

Last week my meeting at the old Thai FArmers Bank building finished very early, I decided to go to V club which is of course just 5 minutes drive. I sat down and very quickly 3 massage came and sat at my table without invitation,and very quickly launched into telling me the minimum tip is 3,000Baht plus "V club boys are all special and famous, so you have to pay more".

I left very soon after. Back to HERO for me.

Agree with scoops. V Club was THE place to go 5 - 10 years back, but then started declining in service, and I might add, cleanliness too. I once faced an inflated bill and was absolutely sure that it was no honest mistake. I never went back.

I understand that the owners of V-Club are also onwers of Chakran sauna, and I believe the decline of V-Club started around the time the owners diverted their attention to the sauna.

Does anyone know if the owners are still the same at both places, or if they have divested of one? I find it hard to believe that the same owners can demand high standards at Chakran and not care about plunging standards at V Club.

I agree, too. V Club was revolutionary when it opened -- all we had at that time was the Ambassador Hotel Health Club. Now, unfortunately, it's to be avoided at all costs (in my opinion).

-- This a'noon., instead of visiting me for my weekly massage, Khun Kob asked if I would go to 'BAAN TEWA.' instead? So 'M'med. went to the mountain.' - as the saying is and I arr'd. there, S. Sathorn 7/1., (just behind the SGP. Embassy.), five mins. before13hrs., ('Five minutes early is on time.',as we used to say in the Army.),.
- Masseur Son was to be my masseur for the 90mins. oil-massage. He's 19YO.; hails from Nong Khai; worked in 'Candle Tee SPA.' before moving to 'BAAN TEWA.'; and speaks little English.
- A thorough and good massage, during wch. his fingers reminded me of 'Hagar the Horrible.' and his adverts. for a certain type of beer - ha!
- He had removed his shirt and rolled-up his masseur's trousers before starting, and while his fingers brushed lightly against certain sensitive places of mine several times at first he didn't appear to be too keen on my fingers doing a little exploration on their own. However once my back was finished and I'd turned over he wasn't so shy and eventually both his trousers and u'pants. were removed to reveal an uncut and std. TH. boi issue ****; he gave me a fairly std. 'Happy ending.' as I, in my turn, gave him some pleasure - and myself, too.
- "Well - so much for Khun Kob telling me how he ran his massage parlour - strictly like 'Silom Massage.' or 'Candle Tee SPA.", I thought; possibly the masseurs at 'Indra Massage.' could learn a thing or two from masseur Son.!
- Possibly I'll return thither next week, Insha'Allah." - Stay tuned.
-- bibi..

I don't know what "strictly like" those places means, but I can assure you that I have been pleasured at Candle T Spa. As for Silom Massage, I had a favourite guy there (name:Tee. Is he still there?) who would have gladly done the necessary if only I had given the signal. But the walls being paper thin, not reaching to the ceiling and the showers too far away, it was me who was being "strict", not the masseur. I'm sure he would have been happier for me to be lax.

-- Sloot,
- Wow! that was a rapid response, wasn't it?
- While I attended 'Silom Massage.' over quite some time I was never ever offered an 'Happy Ending.'.
- But I agree with you about their paper-thin walls and partitions not reaching-up to the ceilings - not so good for those desiring a certain amt. of privacy.
- I haven't been to 'Candle T SPA.' - but judging from masseur Son's actions it wouldn't seem to be such a strictly run place as perhaps Khun Kob might like to say that it is.
-- bibi..