Oral & anal
 

But wasn't that Bill Clinton's point ("I did not have sex with that woman")? He didn't have real sex, he only had oral sex.

Difference between oral and anal sex
 

There is a local concept of 'big sex' (anal penetration) which takes one closer to being seen as 'gay' (if only you are the one being penetrated, compared to 'little sex' (oral, hand jobs etc) which is seen part of growing up for many thai boys (and I guess in all cultures).

My old friend Khun ....., the owner of a now defunct but long running local gay magazine explained this to me years ago. He also mentioned that Thai culture in a way endorses boys 'learning' about sex from each other, rather than having sex with girls (because of risk of prgenancy, and because girls should be virgins when they marry, and simply because men are the dominant gender and they should do whatever pleases them).

But it also needs to be said, the notion that 'all Thai boys have sex with Thai boys' (as many farang would like to believe). if not true (again from my gay magazine friend).

In fact I could fill these pages with volumes of insights he shared with me about male/male sex, the other side of the bar boys trade, hay hi-society parties,etc., etc.

Difference between oral and anal sex
 

There is a local concept of 'big sex' (anal penetration) which takes one closer to being seen as 'gay' (if only you are the one being penetrated, compared to 'little sex' (oral, hand jobs etc) which is seen part of growing up for many thai boys (and I guess in all cultures).

My old friend Khun ....., the owner of a now defunct but long running local gay magazine explained this to me years ago. He also mentioned that Thai culture in a way endorses boys 'learning' about sex from each other, rather than having sex with girls (because of risk of prgenancy, and because girls should be virgins when they marry, and simply because men are the dominant gender and they should do whatever pleases them).

But it also needs to be said, the notion that 'all Thai boys have sex with Thai boys' (as many farang would like to believe). if not true (again from my gay magazine friend).

In fact I could fill these pages with volumes of insights he shared with me about male/male sex, the other side of the bar boys trade, hay hi-society parties,etc., etc.

Re: Difference between oral and anal sex
 

-- Scoops,
- While one would not want to trespass upon either your willingness or your time for even a tithe of these ' insights' - nor upon our esteemed Moderator's space provided in this thread - yet a few of the MORE pertinent insights might not come amiss.
-- bibi. --

-- Yet another and new massage parlor has OPENED:
- name: 'MANTRA Health & Massage.';
- address: 37/3, Suriwong rd., (2nd.fl.),
Bang rak;
- loc'n.: on Suriwong rd. and between Siam Comm'l. Bank's Bureau de change and the 'Pink Panther.' girlie bar - opp. to the 'Montein Htl.';
- contact: (02)-632 8275.;
- hrs.:10-02.oo.hrs.;
- pre-opening prices: Foot msg.: 250.; Thai:250..; Aroma/cream: 650.oo.; prices subject to change without notice!

-- Usual disclaimers etc. etc.; E&OE.. -- bibi. --

-- Last sun.,(09th.), evening I went-back to 'JIM'S PUB.',(Soi Than Tawan.), at the request of their barker, Khun Ping-pong, who - I would guestimate - is in his early 20s.. He told me proudly that he's started a 30hrs'. course of massage at Wat Po. and that I would be his first customer.
- The 90mins'. oil-massage was alright in its way, considering that he's just a beginner.
- After a little hesitation he gave me an hand job, wch. wasn't all that expertly done; but again 'Practice makes perfect.', doesn't it?
- Price was 800.oo.Bh. for the massage PLUS TIPS..

-- Usual disclaimers etc.etc.. -- bibi. --

-- Last mon.,(10th.), it was back to 'INDRA MASSAGE.' and to continue my journey of working my way through its masseurs - this week it was Khun Aek's turn.
- Another I-San boi; mid-twenties; small body and ditto elsewhere; speaks little English.
- He removed his shirt and masseur's trousers at my request, and his u'pants. came-off unbidden and soon thereafter.
- The massage was fair enough, quite good in fact; but his other svces. were but so-so..
- Downstairs I chatted with the MamaSan and decided not to consider offering her any further advice and/or ideas about promo., PR. and suchlike: as it's her business so it's up to her now.
-- bibi. --

Was not intending to get a massage tonight but as I went past Busaba Day Spa in Thaniya the boy furthest out front "Lek" really caught my eye and his eye contact and smile drew me in. I had been here once before soon after it opened and the boy then gave good massage but very furtive extras. They now have room up on the third floor - predominantly curtained areas - but I had oil massage and had a proper room but top of wall missing so sound travels easily. The way Lek looked at me in the lift said extras would be involved. Very good massage and then it was the "he gave hand job and I could suck him" - but quietly. Also seems that no evidence could be left on the towels as he had his own tissues. He had a very thick dick and I suspect silicone but done reasonably well. All the boys standing outside were slim student types - some a bit too girly for me but some handsome guys. One hour was Bht500 though the list price said Bht800 I think.

-- Last thu. I went to 'BAAN TEWA.', (S. Sathorn 7/1.), for my usual massage, and was assigned to a newbie masseur Khun Dan: 23YO.; from Korat; speaks ltd. but sufficient English.
- At my request he removed his shirt and masseur's trousers, but then wrapped a towel about his loins!
- Having massaged me initially with a towel over me he moved it so that it was covering those parts upon wch. the sun doesn't usually shine; possibly a hint that I didn't pick-up?
- When he came to massage my shoulders, standing at my head, I moved fwd. on the couch so that my hands could start to explore - but he was unwilling for me to remove his towel.
- Alright, even this Tired Olde Farang recognised that what he expected and what the masseur was prepared to do wouldn't coincide.
- Afterwards the Mngr., seeing my expression, enquired about the massge? To wch. I replied that the masseur has a lot to learn. In my turn I asked from where this masseur came? The reply from the Mngr., as I u'stood. it, was that he did not know!
- Before leaving, in not the best of minds, the Mngr. kindly gave me three complimentary vouchers.

-- Later on, to ease my mind, I did think of visiting another parlor, such a 'K WHY.' but having spent quite enough that day I decided against it.

-- bibi. --

-- Y'day.,(17th.), I went to 'INDRA MASSAGE.',(Soi Than Tawan.), for my usual and monday evening's massage.
- I was assigned to Khun Kit: from I-San; 30YO.; speaks basic English; on the short side; ditto for his eqp't..
- The massage was fair enough, but - for whatever reasons,(either masseur or I.), - the usual extras didn't turn me on all that much: MORE mechanical m'bation. than emotional release, for want of a better expression.
- Having accumulated ten previous massages on their card we'll see what next week'll bring in the way of a free massage - for wch. I've a good mind to request a four hands' massage and then see what'll happen.
-- bibi. --

Fan Club (Soi Convent)
 

I went to Fan Club earlier this week, around 5pm. Nice premises - same as GQ, from what I can see of their Web site. There was a selection of half-a-dozen boys - I chose the twinkiest one. From the get-go there was no question about sex or no-sex; we showered together, he massaged me naked etc. etc. His oral skills at arousing me were "accomplished" (and welcome). And that's where it stopped. He couldn't get a hard-on (tiny dick when flaccid but you never can tell from that) and either a very dirty arse or lots of tiny anal warts - I never could tell from my touching (and wasn't going to investigate further). He'd showered me - but not himself! And at the end I noticed he'd brought a condom and lube - standard issue, perhaps, but no anal sex was offered

As for the massage - well, lots of cream being rubbed over the skin but nothing that I'd call a massage in any shape or form. In the end I was out of there (without climaxing) in 1 hour and 25 minutes (for a 1.5-hour massage). The mamasan did ask me if I'd enjoyed it so I thought I'd do the non-Thai thing and offer some criticism. I asked how long the boy had been there - two weeks. I suggested he needed some teaching. Whether that even registered is something I'll never know. I may try one of the other boys next week ... or maybe not.

SilomGWM....The Mamasan there (the heavyset tall guy) used to pride himself in telling all customers that he'd personally trained each and every one of the massueres there. So, either his training sucks, he's not training anymore OR TIT....and we ALL know what that means.

Arena
 

I have to ask a question about what used to be my favourite whore house....Arena.

I went there at 4.30 this afternoon, expecting things to be the way they've always been. However, I was really surprised to find only NINE lads working there!!! That's the smallest line-up I've EVER seen there. And, it seemed to me that the place was dirtier than before...and that there were more cockroaches in the shower than before.

So, my question is: Has Arena fallen on hard times? Has it joined the list of "has been" places? (Oh wait...that's two questions!!)

And, because I know you're all waiting breathlessly to find out: I took a young lad named Ya. His dick was so big that he was embarassed to show it. So, you can already guess the rest.....I got fucked. He got paid. Everyone was happy. The End.

Long time mamasan from Arena now working same job at Adonis in convent.

Does anyone know the webaddress for Fan Club ? Is that a new place?

thanks

1. - http://www.aboutg.net/fanclub
2. - It's newish, been around a few months, I believe.
- Info. for #1. is from freebie mag. 'Variety.' Vo.VI:57..
- From the blurb in the a/m. 'Variety.' I read: '... serves you with high quality of handsome and well-trained staff.'.
- Perhaps, from reading others' postings, I should conclude with E&OE.!?
-- bibi. --

Sextile....the website you provided actually makes the place look gorgeous!!! However, in "real time" it's pretty basic. Each room has a shower and a bed. Full stop. It looks quite industrial....as in the decorator may have been the one who designed Jupiter Club. There aren't many lads on offer, and as has been reported here in the past, there are more than a few problems with some of them. However, it is another place to try. I'll try it one more time before passing final judgement.

FANCLUB

I went to fanclub about three weeks ago. Not a pleasant experience, vowed to give it a miss.

Today I was near and had a little free time, went in, selected a young man, went to the room, I left 15 inutes later.

Totally arrogant young man, instantly started to tell me he was a super star and minimum of 2,500. I politely replied that I would pay my normal rates depending on service. He then gave a loud sign of annoyance, and said 'another keenow farang (stingly).

That ended the whole session. I gave him 100 Baht and dressed and went back to the lobby. Captain was right there, didn't ask any questions / make any comment.

Now well and truly off my list. In fact I should have known better, this place is owned by same people as GQ club, which is full of very arrogant lazy boys who think they are gods gift to the world.

Aspara
 

Looking for a straighforward, traditional Thai massage I decided to give Aspara a try. 200 baht an hour; I chose the standard 2-hour option. I bluntly asked the captain what sort of tip the boy would expect. After the usual "up to you" nonsense, he said "If only massage, 300 baht". "Only", I thought. Hmmm. We went upstairs to a cubicle, one of 10 at the Silom Rd end of the building. There was at least one other customer there, a Thai who insisted on a lengthy monologue with his masseur, punctuated by calls on his mobile phone, which at one stage I would happily have rammed down his throat.

90 minutes into the massage the boy (whom I would not have chosen had I been given a choice but, after all, I was only there for the massage), turned his attention to my thighs and groin. He had a hard-on (decent size for a Thai) and was quite happy for me to suck away but all that he was offering was a hand job. By this stage I'd worked out we were the only ones upstairs.

So I went for one thing (which wasn't too bad, I'd have to say), got another which I wasn't expecting and frankly wasn't that welcome, and ended up paying more than I'd planned because of the ambush.

Janpaspa
 

Hello all: I'm new to this forum. Thanks for a lot of great insight. I've been in BKK for a year now and have a great Thai BF, but the urges do take over from time to time. Christmas Eve, my guy was at work and I was feeling lonely and horny, so looked around and decided to give myself a holiday treat and try a 4 hand massage somewhere I hadn't been before. I cruised the net and looked for something different and came across Janpaspa's site. It sounded good enough, but didnt' think to call ahead first.
When I got there I was politely informed that a lot of the usual staff weren't there that night and they were a bit busy, so I decided I'd go with a simple one on one instead. The mamasan showed me the photo book and told me who was available. I asked for Ken (although on the website he's listed as Keng).
I booked for a 90 minute session, was led to my room, nice enough, needs a little refurbishment, but it was clean and the massage bed was big enough to not worry about falling off.
Took my shower and then waited. After a few, Ken showed up and we chatted for a few. Very sweet, handsome, lean, nice tight muscles, a couple hot tats. Very yummy indeed.
Without going into too much detail, the massage was excellent! Long, slow, just the right firmness. Actually worked some knots out of my legs and shoulders. He did some careful brushing up vital parts to remind me of the end result, but as pure massage goes, he was A+.
When the clock started the final rundown, he did start on a nice, slow hand job, kissing and sucking my nips as he went. I asked him if it was ok if I touched him, and said of course. He was still wearing bikini briefs at this point and he was fairly hard, not too big or thick, probably around 6.5" uncut-just what I like, more than that's a waste for me.
He let me take his cock out and and let me suck him. He moved up on top of me and let me smoke him, til he gave me a nice thick load. Then he finished me off, cleaned me up and then proceeded to massage my neck, shoulders and head for another 10 minutes.
Finally he gave me a kiss on the lips and said thank you.
All in all, he was one of the sweetest, and best masseurs I've experienced.
The cost for the massage was: 700 I believe.
I tipped a lot (it WAS Christmas)
Janpaspa is at 15/1 Sukhumvit Soi 41, less than 10 minute walk to BTS.
Highly reccomended
www.janpaspa.com
Happy Holidays guys

-- A correspondent from SGP. has asked me to recommend an a go-go bar and a massage parlor with muscular men.
- I've suggested the flg.:
1.- 'TAWAN MEN'S BAR.';
2.- 'HERO SAUNA.', although not having visited it for a long, long time I'm not so sure about its muscled masseurs. Further suggestions welcumed - ha!
-- bibi. --

Hero
 

Yes Hero still has a lot of muscular men but the average age there is much lower than Tawan.

Yes, the muscle boys at Hero are much younger, better looking, and "natural" appearing than the ones at Tawan -- which just look ugly and grotesque to me (my opinion only).

I second that emotion. I've often wondered what those men would look like were it not for steriods. But, as they say...to each his own.

I appreciate all the info provided by everyone - glad we can still do this.

However, most postings seem to involve physically satisfying the boys - I may be old and not pretty, but when I go to these places and am paying the boys, I am the one who wants to be satisfied - either orally, or by topping (at least as long as I am able to!) Hand jobs are boring, I can do that by myself with the aid of a good video.

Not knocking anyone elses preferences, but can anyone give any info about boys that can do the job?

-- Last monday, (NY's. eve.), I went to 'INDRA MASSAGE.' for my usual and monday's session, looking fwd. to receiving one hour's free massage - I'd pay the necessary balance for the remaining half-an-hour. I'd resolved, too, to ask for a "Four hands' massage.".
- It took the MamaSan and her Capt. several mins. to decide upon a suitable pr. of masseurs, eventually they decided upon Khun Chaeng,(?), & K.Oan.
- In the room I asked both masseurs to take-off their tee-shirts and masseurs' trousers; after some shy and self-conscious giggles they complied.
- The four hands' masssage was good as a massage, and the two seemed to work well together; I noticed that it was Oan who seemed to concentrate more on those parts of mine upon wch. the sun ... .
- Having changed my pos'n. slightly I discovered that each masseur had taken-off his u'pants. as well. After a while both of their **** were within easy reach of my hands: Chaeng's soon became hard: 4-5." LOA. and thick, Oan took longer: longer but thiner.
- I'll allow that I didn't say anything, but relied upon my body's responses to Oan's questing fingers to indicate what I'd allow to happen - possibly I should have spoken-up? Certainly, for whatever reason, there was little if any chemistry, or whatever, between the masseurs and myself; so there were nothing more than hand-jobs all around.
- Downstairs, even although I'd confirmed beforehand that I'd be given one hour for free, I was presented with a bill for 1,000.oo.Bh.! The MamaSan was called-back and she agreed that one hr. was for free, but I'd enjoyed the svces. of a second masseur who'd have to be paid. Eventually we compromised and I paid just 800.Bh. - not with the best of grace, I'll allow - but point noted for future reference: "Caveat Emptor."!

-- The flg. day and during b'fast. I recounted the above to an American 'Snowbird.', who told me that the one time he went there there was some seeming misu'standing. about whether he'd had an Aroma or a plain Oil-massage, wch. didn't leave a good taste in his mouth - he has not returned there.
- The American added that the MamaSan has a reputation amongst her masseurs of being tight-fisted: willing to receive but unwilling to give.

-- bibi. --

Hero
 

Agree with most of the last several posts.

You want the massage boy to service you! I agree totally.

At HERO, for me, it's wall to wall gorgeuos masculine young men. Mostly well defined, some closer to body builder physiques.

It's extremely rare to find attitude or rudeness, and service to the client is excellent. This seems to the 'standard' at HERO.

I've never had hints or direct requests for extra money.

I go back again and again for all of the above reasons.

Regards,

-- Corr'n. -

04 jan. - INDRA MASSAGE - New Year's party.;
- address: 7/1., Soi Than Tawan,
Suriwong rd.,
Bang rak, BKK., 10500..
- loc'n.: Soi Than Tawan, (opp. 'Tawan Men's Bar.'.),.
- contact: (02)-634 0099..

-- Apologies for incorrect date - "Mea culpa!".
-- bibi. --

Thanks Scoops - I will definately have to give Hero a try in the near future. I live a bit out of the way but occasionally used to go to Albury for my regular there but think he might not be there any more as I have not heard from him in three years.

-- Last night, (mon.), continuing my trawl through 'INDRA MASSAGE.', Soi Than Tawan, and its masseurs I was assigned to Khun Yai - 32YO. from Thonburi; lives singly with his Mother out past On Nut, (BTS. E9.),; previously had a girl-friend but no more; short & stocky build with **** to match; has been working there for the last eight or so mos.; speaks fair English.
- A good and strong massage, during wch. he knelt-down on the massage-table and placed my thighs over his so that he could massage better certain parts of me.
- The fact that he had had a previous girl-friend shewed itself in his post-massage trtmnt. of me, wch. wasn't exactly to my tastes; but it takes all sorts, doesn't it? Interestingly enough he made no effort to persuade me to offer him the 'Final Favor'; he shewed v. obviously that he didn't like my fingers exploring too far back.
-- bibi. --

-- It seems like it must have been a poor 'Tourist-season.' for some places and people: I see that 'SARIKA TOYO MASSAGE.' in Suriwong Centre, (opp. the soon to be opened 'Le Meridien.' hotel on Suriwong rd.), has CLOSED. Possibly we'll see more closures before much longer?
- Some of my 'Talking boys.' have been complaining about lack of customers, wch. - if sitting and looking in Silom Complex Shopping Plaza,(BTS.: Sala Daeng,[S2.],), is any guide - could well be quite true.
-- bibi. --

MAny of the boys have gone to Pattaya or Phuket where the beach tourist season is in full swing. BKK is only a stop over for most inbound tourists.

-- Mon.,(14th.), evening to 'INDRA MASSAGE.' as usual; at wch. I arr'd. some minutes before 21.oo.hrs. to see three farangs enjoying foot-massages.
- My masseur was Khun Chang, (apparently pronounced Chai!), 26YO.; Nhong Khai; been wkg. there for a couple of yrs.; speaks ltd. English - so little conversation possible.
- As usual I asked the masseur to take-off his shirt and masseur's trousers - but as soon as he sat on my back I realized that they weren't all that had been taken-off!
- A good and thorough massage.
- As he seemed to be so eager I offered him the 'Final Favor.' - but with a **** just about 4ins.LOA. it was rather 'Love's Labour Lost.', I fear; possibly smoking would have been more satisfying for both of us.
- When it came to pleasuring me he shewed that he knew what to do - at least as far as I was concerned.
- Back downstairs, after my 90mins. oil-msg., there were another three farangs having foot-massages.
-- bibi. --

Indra Massage - my first time
 

Utterly taken in by Sextile's repeated reports, I tried Indra Massage for the first time tonight. I chose a guy who called himself "May", though the lady boss called him "May Tim" or something close to that. He said he was 25 years old and from Ubon Rachatani.

I believe he is the same one that Sextile wrote about on 20 Nov 2007:

==== QUOTE:

Y'day., (19th.), evening I went to 'INDRA MASSAGE.',(opp. 'Tawan Bar.'.), for my usual and monday's massage, arriving at 21.hrs..
- I was offered Khun Ne, but having enjoyed his attentions before I asked for the next masseur whom I hadn't had before and was offered Khun Maikey: 25YO. from I'San; shorter & thickset body; newly arr'd. there; speaks just basic English -so I asked the Mamsan how we would communicate? ' Just use body-language.' she replied - ha! Ha!!
- The massage began well-enough and soon he was astride of me to massage my shoulders the better. He soon u'stood. my body-language and removed both shirt & maseur's trousers.
- One thing followed another until it was all too obvious: uncut and std. TH.-boi issue. However,as soon as he put-on a Condom his BP. dropped and couldn't be refortified, no matter what both of us tried. So we concluded with him giving me a std. hand-job while I smoked him.
- Afterwards we enjoyed a shower together before dressing and going downstairs.
-- bibi. --

====

His face caught my attention immediately. He looked 25 alright, but had receding temples already, and the beginnings of a paunch. And I love that! He's quite stocky, not short like Sextile described. I'd say he was about 170 cm, about 70 - 75 kg. Not much body hair, except some sprinkling up this thighs and a happy trail to his navel.

Equipment-wise, he has a nice "standard Thai boy issue" as Sextile says, with loads of foreskin (I like).

I took a 60-minute oil massage for 600 baht which price surprised me as it is more expensive than my favourite, Body Club, which charges 490 baht for 90 minutes, and the latter's rooms (incl ensuite shower) are larger and nicer as well. Indra's shower room could do with some upgrading, and the only privacy is a plastic shower curtain.

The massage room likewise was only curtained off at the doorway, and for nearly the whole session, there was an 8 - 10 cm gap in the curtain, so some one outside could theoretically see what's happening inside. I could hear voices from other rooms, so we certainly were not alone on that floor. I figured the boys do seem to respect each others' privacy and they seem to know what they each have to do for a living, as Mae Tim didn't seem bothered by the gap in the curtain.

In fact, if I'm not mistaken, another boy from outside finally pulled the curtain to close the gap, because at the moment the curtain was pulled, I had the sense that May was working on my calf and thus was some 1.5 metres from the doorway. The other boy seemed more bashful than May!

His massage technique is quite respectable; I would say comparable to the weaker ones at Candle T Spa... and that's no mean comparison, because the good ones at Candle T are very, very good.

He started without removing any clothing. I deliberately held off asking in order to see what might happen on its own. But when his clothes stayed resolutely on by the 15th or 20th minute, I indicated with my hands that I'd prefer his baggy trousers off. While I didn't indicate his shirt or underpants, he got the message really quickly. But since I wasn't a regular there, he said to me "body to body massage? one thousand baht, OK?" just so there'd be no misunderstanding afterwards. I won't hold it against him at all; it's what I'd expect him to do to protect his own interests.

So off the fabric went, all of it, and for the rest of the hour, my hands did some exploration of their own while he worked.

He managed to get hard, but seemed to take very long to reach a climax, though he was clearly trying. By the way, he said he was "Gay King" - which is not a clear answer. I mean, does he mean he's top but straight, or top and gay?

Anyway, after about 15 min, unfortunately, he made the mistake of glancing at the clock, and seeing that the time was running out, got distracted rather quickly and lost it!

So only I enjoyed an ending. Then showered together.

I hadn't read Sextile's review before going to Indra, for the simple reason that I had no idea whom I might get, but reading his 20 Nov review now, it's uncanny how it happend to both of us - Mai losing his erection. And for that, the poor chap (unknowingly) missed out on an extra tip on top of the promised 1,000.

Sextile, if you're going by Indra anytime soon, tell May that "Lek from Singapore" says hello, and that I think he's good.

The lady boss asked me whether i lived in Thailand. I said I didn't but come very frequently, like every other month. She said, "I give you member card." Something about 1 free massage after 10. Then she looked high and low and finally said, "Oh, no more. finished already."

I thought that was bad marketing. Promising and not delivering. But having read Sextile's opinion of her from way back, I'm hardly surprised. She seems sweet and means well, but not quite a businesswoman.

For others - if you're into twinky boys, Indra is not for you. They're quite a masculine bunch, and Mai's 70 kg does not make him the biggest one there. Also, you shouldn't be easily put off by less than 5-star rooms.

I went in at about 7:30 pm. I noticed that I was the 16th customer in the book; I assume 16th for the day. However, It's not clear to me whether some of the 15 previous customers were only there for foot massage. So I can't say if they had 15 body massages before me.

Sextile - I hope I have done justice to your tireless efforts reviewing all the masseurs of Indra through writing a report even more detailed than yours! Not that I'm competing.... just a returning a tribute.

Body Club is 390 baht for 1.5 hours, isn't it?

Pretty sure Body Club is Bht490 as I always have a problem as to whether to take the Bht10 change or leave it - the latter seems as cheap as taking it.

Went to Apsara (often go there for the body scrub and massage after I have been to Cutey Beauty). Previous two times boys not been up to much. This time had a boy that did not do too much in the way of an erotic massage but did occasionally rub his crotch over my foot. Near end then asked about tip and said yes would do so depending what he did. Got into deep tongue kissing then he sucked well and also wanted me to cum in his mouth - which I find is not common these days. Will give his name to people who Private Message me that I recognise from other postings. Will go back again soon to see if on the second visit he does more earlier on.

Sloot....in Thai boy lingo, "Gay king" means that the lad is gay and is a top. HOWEVER, because this IS Thailand, don't be surprised if the "gay king" has a wife and a girlfriend or two and a couple of farang guys on the side. One of the beauties of these lads is that, to them, sex is sex....no matter what equipment your partner has.

We may both be right: 390 baht for oil / 490 for cream. Both 90 minutes. From their website:

http://www.bodyclubbangkok.com/wizCo...txtmMenu_ID=46

-- Sloot,
- Thanks for your view-point in 'INDRA MASSAGE.' - appreciated!
- No, I don't regard you or anyone else as competing: 'The more the merrier.',as it were, other's originations are welcumed, always!
- If we're writing-about the same masseur then I can't write that I noted his long 'skin., something I might have noticed as they're not amongst my preferences, prefering a shorter 'skin. that reveals just the tip of the glans when flaccid.
- Agreed with your thoughts about the MamaSan's business acumen - not too good, in my non-business judgement; but it's her business, not mine, thank goodness! Last night, mon. and after my usual massage, I spoke with her and enquired about business? 'Bad.' was here one word response; adding that: 'The THs. are not spending money, and with the opening of the new S'bhumi. Int'l. Airport MORE and MORE farangs are not coming-in to BKK. but prefer to go straight on to Pattaya,Phuket, Samui or to other places.'. A tougher minded business-person than me might say: 'Excuses, excuses.' and suggest ways and means of countering this apparent DOWN-turn in business; but I've given-up trying to suggest ways of attracting MORE customers thither.
- I pass-by 'INDRA MASSAGE.' at least once per diem and so shall be pleased to pass-on your message to Khun Mai Ting or whatever we farangs call him in transliteration .
-- By the bye, as you hail from SGP., do you look-at that web-site SGBOY.COM ? I find its Travellers' Lodge thread helpful.
-- bibi. --

Well, it was long enough to cover the glans but didn't hang out...

Well, his most obvious facial feature would be his receding hairline at the temples and someone with short nickname of "May". With that, I'm sure whether you can figure out whether it's the same guy or not. That's if you care to.

Re Body Club, yes, it's 390 baht for 90 min oil massage and 490 baht for cream.

For my last day I may try Adonis (is that what it's called?) at Soi Convent - another one I tried once a few years ago, formed a poor opinion and never gone back. Does anyone think it would be a complete waste of time again?