[biggles69]

It must be low season! This week I have had heaps of emails from old contacts/ new contacts / old language teachers asking how I am and looking for money....(can't paid rent this month, can you help me na?) Tourist slump must be bad....which is good news for cruisers looking to pick up lots of boys at bargain prices! Wonder if the bars in BKK will reduce their excessive drinks prices?

[sextile]

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Wonder if the bars in BKK will reduce their excessive drinks prices?
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-- Surely local logic would dictate that in times of falling profits prices should be INCREASED!
-- bibi.. --

[biggles69]

That would be the likely conclusion of an economist / accountant, monopolistic bureauocrat (are you any of these? LOL) but that only works in an ologopolistc model ...its more likely you will loose even more business to competitors who maintain or reduce prices. Demand is still price elastic.

The marketing aproach would be to go for a larger share of the available market by offering teasers to get clients in...and keep them...like happy hour, cheaper prices for Thais accompanying farang, 11 pm prize draw etc

The strategy should be to maximise bums on seats to ride out the low season. Either way long term they will go out of buiness unless demand increases again.

[sloot]

Grabbing market share through price advantage only works when there is real competition. An alternative strategy is to form a cartel and raise prices together.

[biggles69]

Originally Posted by sloot

Grabbing market share through price advantage only works when there is real competition. An alternative strategy is to form a cartel and raise prices together.

Agreed. Cartel = oligopoly, and I suspect one definetly operates in Soi Twighlight!

[sextile]

Originally Posted by biggles69

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1.- ...its more likely you will loose even more business to competitors who maintain or reduce prices. Demand is still price elastic.
2.- The marketing aproach would be to go for a larger share of the available market by offering teasers to get clients in...and keep them...like happy hour, cheaper prices for Thais accompanying farang, 11 pm prize draw etc
3.- The strategy should be to maximise bums on seats to ride out the low season. ... .

1.- That's why I was careful to write: '... local logic ... .'; the 'Smiley.' should have given you a clue, possibly?
2.- Agreed - once the bar has lured-in the customers then they'll be LESS reluctant to leave; hence my agreement with you about 'Teasers.' and so on and so forth;
3.- Agreed, again, (WOW! Such unaminity, whatever next? ),.
-- Bibi.. --

[Mii_Kwaam_suk]

Originally Posted by biggles69

It must be low season! ....(can't paid rent this month, can you help me na?) Tourist slump must be bad....which is good news for cruisers looking to pick up lots of boys at bargain prices!

And if you have them stay overnight, instead of letting them eat with you, you could just let them sort through a dumpster.

I'm going to assume that this somehow sounds more exploitive and ugly than you meant it to be.

If you know some of these guys and they actually have your mobile number and they are so desperate for rent, food or whatever...and you see this as an opportunity to take advantage of their desperation ... wow. That's actually nauseating.

[biggles69]

Originally Posted by Mii_Kwaam_suk

And if you have them stay overnight,
If you know some of these guys and they actually have your mobile number and they are so desperate for rent, food or whatever...and you see this as an opportunity to take advantage of their desperation ... wow. That's actually nauseating.

You are absolutely right and I apologise if it came across that way. My main target was expensive bar drinks, and for my part my tipping poilcy is constant around the year. I can't support them all, but I have given one favoured sweet boy 5,000 baht to get through this month, no favours expected.

Icon , after my mea culpa has been viewed by Mii_Kwaam_suk et al, I think it best to delete the thread.

[multiple id's]

Don't think Biggles came across like that at all.The response to him was po-faced and a touch nanny-state lecture.If I may opine freely.

[silomGWM]

Originally Posted by multiple id's

Don't think Biggles came across like that at all.The response to him was po-faced and a touch nanny-state lecture.If I may opine freely.

You mean like a "Department of Homeland Security" announcement in a US airport?

[billinbkk]

Originally Posted by multiple id's

Don't think Biggles came across like that at all.The response to him was po-faced and a touch nanny-state lecture.If I may opine freely.

We seem to be having a spate of nanny-state lectures lately, no?

[Mii_Kwaam_suk]

Originally Posted by billinbkk

We seem to be having a spate of nanny-state lectures lately, no?

Oh, I don't know. The emotional rants in one form or another have been going on for a long time. Certainly some of them have been lectures, nanny-state or condescending:

Set the ground rules early and don't stray from them. Stick to your guns. These guys have got more stories than Carter has liver pills. Don't believe them. If a hand job is worth THB 1,000 that's it.....full stop!)

While others are failed attempts at being patronizing, the assumption being that someone who is terminally negative about life has been in Thailand longer than someone who is not cynical about everything.

Clearly, you've never been to Thailand.

Welcome to the board. Stick around. You'll learn the meaning of "the more things change, the more they stay the same".

And then going on with the aforementionned erroneous assumption about who has lived in Thailand longer...

As I wrote earlier, clearly this new poster has never set foot inside The Kingdom. People who have never been here don't realize how different things are here.....which keeps those of us who live here posting about our experiences.

...we get hit with the cries de coeur of those whose cranky methodolgy seems not to be working very well and who apparently wants some nanny-state tea & sympathy.

So, I told her that I'd take whoever would be happy fucking a fat farang. She asked the guys (about 10 or so) who would like to go with me and they ALL said "NO!!" So, she turned to me and said "Sorry, no boy for you tonight." I left there and went to Royal. As I approached, the two massage guys sitting outside got up and went inside, leaving me standing on the street alone.

Anyone need a nanny-state hanky to wipe away the tears as the sun sets on the wise old farang "standing on the street alone?"

[Mii_Kwaam_suk]

Originally Posted by biggles69

Icon , after my mea culpa has been viewed by Mii_Kwaam_suk et al, I think it best to delete the thread.

I am sorry if both your original comment and my response sounded harsher than they were intended to be.

There are a fairly small number of regular posters on this board but, based on the number of people who read some of the threads, there are many, many lurkers who (probably)have not yet visited Thailand or rarely do. They undoubtedly "learn" a great deal from the experiences of those who do post.

I only recently bothered to register myself although I have been reading posts here for some time. What motivated me to register was that I felt too many people were making the boys sound as though they were lazy, dishonest or difficult to deal with and therefore financial generosity when tipping them was somehow foolish. My view is that the majority are performing a difficult job quite spectacularly and when they are treated as more than pretty pieces of meat, they will make the time you spend with them even more enjoyable ... for all concerned.

I realize that no one died and left me in charge of defending the boys who work in the bars or elsewhere, but I still would rather risk sounding like a meddling old biddy than to leave the impression that the boys are here to opportunistically exploit.

Actually after posting my comment I was going to go back and edit some of what I said so it wouldn't sound quite so harsh, at which point my TOT DSL service crashed and only just now revived.

[multiple id's]

I think you are right.The regular posters here seem to be sensitive to the situation of Thai people and don't take advantage.The assumption is that readers know about safe sex and the wrongs of exploitation and the accent here is on fun cruising.It is hard not to become outraged when respect is violated and the financially powerful run amok.We all witness some ghastly attitudes now and then in bars and less so come across them here.

An example of the weird people who gravitate to Thailand is shown ad nauseum on nightly news of the Austrian who held his daughter captive in the basement and fathered children.His holiday videos taken here make you wonder about his behaviour on the visit and hope his liasons were not too dreadful for the locals.

[sextile]

-- Just wondering - were this an 'Ortho-sexual.', (ie. non-g*y site.), would we be writing-in and taking such a benevolent and indulgent view of the Phat Pong, and elsewhere, ladies of the night?
-- Bibi.. --