I would highly doubt they will be using the massage shop as a short-time hotel for offs.
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I would probably have to concur with our dear Icon on this one. However, as this is Thailand, nothing would surprise me.

Thanks for the Aqua update. Had never had a bad experience there, but have not been in many many months.

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My favorite is HERO.There are many choices.
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From my experience Hero is the best massage venue by the widest possible margin. A friend however has had very good experinces at Senso.

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From the Thaimassageboy site-that is also revamped:
the former HAREM is now named 7K
new, but I think also replacing a former other named place is
APPLE; in far away Bueng Khoom=way beyond Bangkapi
There is also a new one in soi 101 Lard Prao- name is MEN 101. They seem to have a lot of hunky men former working in oher shops in that general area.
The one roughly opposite the new Govt centre and immigration, subsoi of CheangWattana rd (Cigar men?) seems to have folded also.
The Palermo our dear sextile was naming a few posts above is also quite far out of town: that area is Prawet and lies close to Swampy airport, no easy connection into centretown and also not that near an ARL-station.
ON the gaythailand site has been mentioned another shop, possible this is an incarnation of former JUDO, near the Mall/Pantip 2 along Ngam Wong Wan- LOOKME Spa, soi NgWongWan 30. However I seem to recall it mentioned curtained off massage space, so do not expect too much in non-massage, I guess.
Also quite a few places seem to have upped the hourly rates.
FANclub as mentioned above quite often runs specials-either by flyers distributed by boys along Silom or via coupons printed from the Thaimassageboy site-often for free or just 100 bt/hr for the massage-no discount on the tips!

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Hey guys, anyone been to Bangkok Massage on Soi Twilight lately? Still open, any reviews etc? Am arriving late and am after a quick rub and blow and this looks a likely place just down the road from the hotel.

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How recent do you want? I posted something which is on the previous page on Bangkok Massage (late August) but I didn't have to swim there through the floods

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I was recently in Bangkok for a couple of days and decided to check out Senso. As others have mentioned it is more expensive that the others, but you do get a real massage... I went at about 430 and there were only 3 guys available. The mamasan said the others were all occupied. I almost left, but then decided on one who had a nice body and was about the right age and shape I like. I was very happy with my selection.... the massage was first rate, and the "extra" was nice and hard and very enjoyable. That was my last night in the city, but when i return i will definitely go back here, even for the higher prices.

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Intermezzo from woth of border;
Havenn, massage M2M, in KUL/MY, next to Khun sauna+massage )speak Thai), in the Chears/Maliuri area, beside the brandnew VILLA mall. See trevvy-malays connect for details.
On a late afternoon I was searching for the unmakred door when 2 smart boys just happened to come along and asked if i was looking for massage? They were VNese and happened to work there-on an illegal tourist stay. So went in-my 1st Malay massage this way. A curt Chinese owner told me the offer; naked massage is 60 MR and b2b 100 (1 MR=ringit=ca 10 bt), all for 1 hr. There were a display of foto's to choose from and there about 10 boys present-playing games, looking hopefully or bored. ALL were foreign, i told the (chinese local) owner I did not fancy a mainland Chinese-he grinned and said 'no problem''. The Burmese turned out to be a arakan+more like bangala. So I choose this guy who came yup with me,a 25/26 yr old Viet (half child, I think) paid up, the ''rooms'' were partly fenced off cardboard walls- sharing AC-so with openings and just a think cutrain to the ally. Shower was ok, Tom undressed and turned out to speak excellent english and started up-more like a mix of Thai and oil massage with some for me unknown strokes etc. was happy to talk and a witty person, I am bit wary of VN-many are even more greedy as Chinese, but no mention at all of money was made. He told me to work in a fashion shop in Saigon and learned massage from friends and www and VDO. Was quite good, but lacked the Thai sensual touch. Suddenly it was done and he turned to more serious bisnis-but I felt a bit unease in this place, so the realt thing was not done, but he smoked heavenly. After all this was more a guy to spend an eve with-drink, talk, have fun and end up as those things end. All in all with his tip (he seemed pleasantly surprised) a bit lower even as a Thai session would cost in total.
As now everyone can fly, we found out that he+me use AirAsia this sunday to fly out.

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-- My Elderly, Frequently-visiting & Am. Friend flew-IN y'day., 26 nov., evening from HKG.;
- Wanting stg. MORE than just a straight & prof. massage, such as he obtains usually from his prefered masseur John at SILOM MASSAGE - Si Lom rd., he visited EVE HOUSE - Suriwong rd.;
- His fav. masseur, Khun Tong, has moved-on whithersoever, but masseur Pat,(Phaet,Phek?), is still there as is another & straight masseur. Both the massage and its 'afters.' were reported as being 'Just short what the Dr. ordered.'; my friend having been favorably impressed by the fact that masseur Pat. said, up front, that he'd had previous customers and thus wasn't feeling too strong; however my friend was able to return to his hotel's bed - alone - and to fall asleep tired but happy!
-- E&OE. as reported speech. --

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Went to the Ambassador today because I was in the mood for a reliably decent massage with that little extra. I've been going there since the mid-90's every time I'm in Bangkok and I've never had a bad massage. My very first time I was actually quite surprised when the hunky masseuse began to excite me and jerk me off. I had no idea it was going to happen and a tip was not even discussed. After that however, every time I went, the routine was pretty much the same. The massage involved long strokes and some butt play, eventually reaching under to play with my crotch. By the time I was flipped over on my back, I was usually at full arousal. Sometimes the masseuse would negotiate a tip, sort of holding me hostage, other times not, but I knew it was expected.

So today I went, looking forward to more of the same, pretty much even expecting who my masseuse would be since in the morning there are very few choices.

I arrived around 10. An Asian guy had gotten there right before me. He paid his fee and sat down. I said I wanted a massage, was asked "lady or man?", told it was 600 baht, paid and waited. The Asian guy before me was escorted into the massage area by a masseuse. I sat and waited. Soon, the same masseuse came and got me and showed me to my room. Nothing was said. He gave me a towel. I stripped and lay down on the massage table. After a few minutes, he returned and told me I could use the sauna. I told him I just wanted a massage. He seemed confused. I said, "no massage?", kind of figuring at this point that he was the only one available and he was obviously booked. He said, "five to ten minutes". So I covered myself with a towel and waited....and waited...and waited. You'd think by now someone would have brought me a glass of water or came to tell me what was going on, but nothing. So I got up, used the restroom, got some water and walked around a bit, and waited. Finally, it was now 30 minutes after I had arrived, I went to the reception and asked what was happening. She said she had called and he was on his way. I asked, "How long?" She could not answer.

I know it is not culturally appropriate to lose one's temper with Thais, so I was restraining myself, though I was getting increasingly irritated. I said, "10 minutes, 1 hour, 2 hours?" I know I was being overly dramatic, but she could not offer a response. I decided I'd waited long enough, even though I really wanted the massage. I told her I was going to cancel. I began to get dressed. When I was fully dressed, she knocked on my door and told me he was there. I decided to stay, since I was there and really needed a massage. I am just recovering from a nasty stomach thing and thought this would help.

I undressed again and waited for my masseuse. He was the guy I was expecting, much older now and not as buff as I remember (sort of describes me).

The massage was good. I had to tell him I wanted it harder as nothing irritates me more than someone just rubbing oil on me. He complied. He tried several times to get me excited. He succeeded to some degree. Long story short, the massage was adequate, I achieved release, tipped him 600 baht and got dressed. As I was leaving he said, "pay up front".

I was still in a massage haze, so I didn't quite get what he was saying. When I went out front a different woman was there. She said, "600 baht". I took out my wallet to pay and then remembered I had paid earlier. I distinctly remember since I had decided to give her exact change rather than give her 1,000 and get change. I remember her telling me it was 600 baht, and remember thinking it used to be 500 for oil and 600 for aroma, but now there was no choice. I remember the guy before me paying.

I told this woman I already paid. She said she was told I had not. I insisted. She insisted I had not. This went back and forth with another woman joining in and insisting I pay. I attempted leaving but they shouted out at me to wait. She pulled a bunch of money and receipts from the drawer and counted the money with a calculator. I don't know what that would have proven. She called someone. She told me to wait. I finally said I'd waited long enough. I told them what I remembered about paying. I told them I was going to write a negative review and that in fact I wanted a refund. Amazing how this suddenly changed the dynamic. They said they could not offer me a refund but could give me a coupon for 30 minutes free next time. I said I was never returning. It is true. To be honest, the place is a dump, for as fancy as the hotel appears to be. The massage was fair. If I want a real massage I can get a better one elsewhere. But the most irritating part was the service, or lack thereof. I would have definitely been treated better at Hero or Arena or any other pay to play massage venue. The Ambassador is supposed to be legit, when actually it's a dumpy, poorly run relic from the past.

If anyone decides to go, my one piece of advice is - if you pay before your massage, get a receipt.

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-- I remember Khun Yannawa complaining about either PURITY or its next-door neighbor TARNTAWAN MASSAGE - Suriwong rd. wanting his payment before the massage; he was not too pleased!
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The Ambassador is supposed to be legit, when actually it's a dumpy, poorly run relic from the past.

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Went there a few years ago. Found it to be a dump. Never went back.

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