Phimosis - a tight foreskin causing pain during sex - has been raised on this board a number of times over the years, suggesting that it is a rather common affliction in Thailand. What has always struck me as strange is that these reported cases have invariably come to light in sex workers, which seems on the face of it a nearly impossible job for them.

Now I have discovered the condition in a young masseur working at a gay establishment in Bangkok. His strong reactions during sex clearly betray the intense pain that he is enduring, yet he denies it. So, do these people welcome the pain? Are they somehow addicted to it? Do they get an adrenaline rush from it, or what?

This latest case seems particularly inexplicable, because the young man in question - rather well-educated, judging from his correct use of English - claims to have thrown up a reasonable job with prospects in order to become a gay masseur. Obviously, he likes it! There seems to be something very odd going on here, doesn't there?

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".......claims to have thrown up a reasonable job with prospects in order to become a gay masseur. Obviously, he likes it! There seems to be something very odd going on here, doesn't there? "

Sounds to me like your jumping to a whole of assumptions here"

- Many jobs with 'good prospects' pay very small salaries in this country, massage workers who are attractive to customers can make 6 or 7 times the typical small salary. And let's be realistic, many young people in all countries live for today and probably don't think enough about their long-term future.

- Many people in any country say things like "...good prospects...'' as a cover up for something. That's life, it's pretty much normal social interaction.

- "Obviously he likes it". What a statement. Many massage boys are straight and work in gay massage every day for years. For one thing - the money.

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Scoops, thanks for responding, but you have missed my main point, which was about phimosis.

Yes, I can just about imagine a young man swapping his steady job with a large company for the variable fortunes of a massage boy. But what is passing strange to me is that he would do it, knowing that he'll suffer agonies from phimosis as part of doing that massage job. ""Obviously he likes it!" (Which is the only explanation that makes any sense to me).

Regardless of the possible financial advantages, it seems odd to me that ANY phimosis sufferers apparently choose to torture themselves by doing sex work. After all, the vast majority of people get by without doing such work.

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-- When I was in PATTAYA recently and went-to KRAZY DRAGON -
- addr.: 273/13, Soi Yensabai, moo 10, Pratamnak rd.,
CHONBURI, 20260.;
- loc'n.: SUNNEE PLAZA;
- tel.: (086)-782 7555., (ask for Khun Nu.),;
- web.: http://www.krazydragon.com/
- drinks: 99.Bh.;
- After admiring several of their table-top dancers in their ever so loose & white shorts, I was joined by boi #100.: Khun Em; a sweet & considerate boi, (my ever susceptible & tender heart went pitter-pat, pittter-pat.),.
- Back in the hotel I found-out that he, too, has a tight 'skin. - painful.
- Maybe there's some sense of shame in going to a Dr. for corrective treatment? Possibly it's a matter of money? Could be a case of ignorance that a simple remedy is available? I don't pretend to know.
- But next time that I'll be in KD. I'll have a few words with #100. and try and find-out any considerations that he might have.

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I do like massage places where sex is not a given but the boys are handsome, young and friendly. I do not want a massage and/or sex from a guy I don't have a liking for. But I am quite happy to have a good massage from a fine lad even if he doesn't make any move to pleasure me. He doesn't make the first move, then I won't.
The two places where I really like the masseurs and their massage and who in general, make no pleasuring move are Chang Massage on Silom on the corner of soi 2 and White Elephant massage on the 2nd floor of Fortune, Ratchadaphysek. I have ravenously pleasured masseurs at both places in the past.

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If anyone can read Thai, could you translate what it says on this page of White House Spa's website?

Promotion webpage of White House Spa

I think I see a 90-minute massage for 500 baht before tips?

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Yes, that's what it says: 90 minute oil massage for 500 baht, down from regular price of 700 baht.

But then, below that, their second promotion is "two 90-minute massages for 1,200 baht, down from usual price of 1,400".

So something doesn't quite add up.

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-- from my last visit to WHITE HOUSE SPA. - several months ago - their promo. period ended at 17.oo.hrs..
- It amused me that one paid LESS and with any luck obtained a fresher masseur than if one arr'd. later! 'The early bird ... .', olde English proverb.

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This may be true, but don't forget when you're early, you get very limited choice. Many of the boys in all establishments arrive only in the evening.

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For a quick but OK translation (either direction) you might like to try 'Google translate'.

In recent times the level of accuracy has increased quite a lot.

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-- A few days ago my enthusiastic, middle-aged & American friend went to BENTO MASSAGE -
- addr.: SILOM TERRACE, 57/155, Soi Saladaeng 2.,
Silom, Bang rak, BKK. 10500.;
- loc'n.: SILOM TCE. is on opp. side of Soi S'daeng. to backside of SILOM COMPLEX SHOPPING PLAZA, (SCSP.), and nearer to SWISS LODGE HTL. on Soi convent; roughly facing SIVADON EXECUTIVE CARS & a multi-storey car-park bldg.; BENTO is right next to a drive-through into SILOM TCE.;
- dirn's.: from Si Convent is approx. 69yds.; from rear ent'ce./exit of SCSP. is roughly 85yds.; there is a pink on yellow BENTO sign over doorway;
- Google Earth co-ords.: roughly 100-32-04.E.x13-43-38.N.;
- tel.: (02)-630 4669.;
- web: Bento Oriental Spa & Massage @ SaLa Daeng
- e-mail: bentospa@msn.com
- hrs.: 11.-06.oo.;
- advert.: freebie & monthly MAX Magazine - IX.#85..

-- My friend arr'd. during mid-a'noon. to find but four masseurs on parade;
- The Recept'n. area is v. clean & comfortable - up-mkt. looking with fresh flowers and other similar touches;
- A gracious MamSan listened to his usual requirements, ('Masseur must have a big cock etc. etc.'), and asked wch. masseur would like to serve him?
- None volunteered, instead a discussion broke-out amongst them; eventually the M'San. detailed one of them - Khun Ex. - to go with the customer;
- Massage room just big enough for the std.-sized table with small surrounding space for the masseur; room contained a hand wash-basin. Good en suite ablutions & toilet area with running H&C. water, good sel'n. of soaps & suchlike; clean linen on massage-table; clean, soft & fluffy towels!
- A so-so massage;
- Afterwards the masseur had to be 'smoked' to achieve an erection so as to be able to put-on a Condom - for wch. he had to leave to room to obtain. A short session of about one minute before the masseur achieved an obviously faked orgasm; the Condom was whipped-off v. quickly before being tossed into the garbage bin.
- The masseur did not join his customer for an after-massage shower; but, having brought a cup of ginger tea, waited outside.
- Afterwards the M'San. was nowhere to be seen.
- My friend paid for a 60 mins. massage and was In & OUT in LESS than 50 mins.!
- NB.: I cannot remember whether my friend mentioned if there is a MINIMUM TIP's. policy there?

-- E&OE. as reported speech. --

-- Today, (08th.), morning I chanced to be in SILOM 64 Bldg. -
- loc'n.: on opposite side of Si Lom rd. to SCSP. & roughly opposite to the large 7/11. Bldg.; connected by a skybridge to BTS. Sala Daeng, (S2.),.
- Outside SAKURA HOLIDAY CO. is a stand for brchures wch. contains a brochure for BENTO MASSAGE wch. offers bearers a 15%. discount.
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-- In SILOM 64 Bldg. is also THE BEST MASSAGE, (3rd. fl.), wch. has featured in this thread quite some time ago - I think that Khun Yannawa might have mentioned it.
- I dropped-in there to ask for a Business Card.
- While writing I noticed 4 prs. of shoes outside the door, so presumably there were 4 masseurs on call?
- The recept'n. area looked clean and smelt fresh.
- The 2 masseurs whom I saw are both on the younger & twinkier side of life.

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Yes, I have mentioned Best a time or 2. Sometimes and now almost never, they have some cute lads outside. Lately they have not been outside except for a smoke. They are pretty much the only functioning business on that floor..strange that with a direct bridge to the BTS, this floor never thrives. Once the phony religious-stone-round-the-neck craze faded out a year or so back, it has been almost empty.
Usually the boys would be up for a little smoking inside during a Thai massage..certainly it would appear to be a better bet than Bento... financially at least.
One of my current favorites is Tantarwan(?) massage...one of the pair of foot massage places almost opposite Meridian on Surawongse. A new lad there gives good service (no name as this is not a sex massage place..officially).

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