Yes. Yes. Yes. Twice at V-club, they tried adding hidden charges to my tab.

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It's not just the management, it's the boys -- some of whom obviously consider themselves to be "superstars", and expect/demand 3,000 or 4,000 baht.

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I have found Hero to be the best massage facility in Bangkok by the widest possible margin.

Can anyone tell me the name of the massage place almost opposite Bonnys on Soi Twilight? Has anyone had experience of this place?

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It would seem that Hero is the best place for massage+ (I DO prefer men to twinks and I'm not Asian), but there's nothing to do there to pass the time between sessions. And then there're places where I can pass some time, but they're not as inviting massage-wise.

Since I'm unfamiliar with the geography of gay sex in Bangkok, please guys - direct me to a street or close-knit area (walking distance between establishments) where I can pass the time liesurely between 12:00 and 21:00, perhaps hopping between hanky-panky bars and massage+ sessions and some kind of show or a place with spa/movies/restaurant, and restart the cycle.

Given the reputation of Bangkok and the collective experience in this forum, I'm hoping to come up with a 9 hours program.

Hope you find this an intellectual challenge. Thanks.

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I think you're going to have a pretty hard time finding action starting at noon.

And how many times do you intend to have sex in the nine hours you have to spend?

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-- Today, (13th.), I noticed that the flg. massage parlors had masseurs sitting o'side. - thus shewing that they're OPEN for customers? - at around 12nn.:
1. - THE BEST MASSAGE. - Si Lom 64 Bldg., by BTS. Sala daeng; OPEN from 11.hrs.;
2. - BUSABA SOI SIX. - Si Lom 6.;
3. - CLIMAX 99. - Soi Than Tawan, next to TAWAN CLUB;
4. - INDRA MASSAGE. - Soi Than Tawan, opp. to TAWAN CLUB;
5. - LISA's. - Suriwong rd., roughly opp. TAWANA BKK. HTL..

-- Also BABYLON SAUNA. - S. Sathorn 1.; OPEN from 10.30.hrs.;

-- Obviously there may well be many more massage parlors OPEN from say about 12nn. - but the a/m. list is just for my local area and is for those that appeared to be ready for early bird customers.
- E&OE..

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Oh boy, you sound desperate

Stay in the Saladaeng area. See map at Directions to Saladaeng and Convent.

You will find these within walking distance (assuming you are able to walk 500 - 1000m in tropical heat):

Reliable Erotic massage at:
1. Adonis; 2. Fan Club; 3. HE Massage

Adventures in massage at:
1. Sukothai (check out dirt and squalor)
2. Saladang (cute boys, doubt if they know anything about massage)
3. Angkor ("we not gay")
4. Senso (investigate how stratospheric their charges can get)
5. Bento (investigate how clueless they can get)

Foot massages at:
Any number of shops north side Silom near Saladaeng BTS station

Sauna/Steam at:
Sauna Mania (Soi Phiphat2 )
[For this one, you'll need to refer to another map: Directions to Chong Nongsi locality

Food and drink:
Any number of places around the corner of Convent and Silom Road (Starbucks, Au Bon Pain, Bua Restaurant for Thai food, pizza, etc), fast food along the north side of Silom Road (Pizza Hut, KFC, Burgerking, O'brien's Sandwiches) or gay cafes in Silom Soi 4 (Telephone Bar, Balcony, Sphinx)

Toilet sex:
Silom Complex Level 2.

Fresh air:
Lumphini Park.

Polluted air:
Stand beside Rama IV Road for 5 minutes.

Shopping:
Buy Sex DVD on north side of Silom Road after 6 p.m. T-shirts, fake brand watches and 100 other things which you actually have no use for. Books at Asia Bookstore in Thaniya Complex (Level 3, I think).

Surf the net:
Silom Net on south side of Silom Road; unnamed internet shop on Patpong 2.

Get a haircut:
Saladaeng Barber adjacent to Silom Net.

Change money when you run out of baht:
Any number of forex counters along Silom Road, north side.

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That should keep you busy.

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Oh yes, there's Style Sauna on Silom Soi 2/1 (or as Thai boys call it, "Soi two and a half"), occupying, I think the former premises of Andy's Man. I've never been in though.

Has anyone checked it out? Anything to report?

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-- Go to SAUNA REPORT thread, posting #44. et seq.; but no recent reports.

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-- Y'day., 22 feb., I looked-in during a forenoon's walk; little if any progress as far as I could see from my previous report: SAUNA RPT., posting #138.;
- Sacks & piles of builders' debris o'side., but just before 12.oo.hrs. front door CLOSED and no signs of any recent activity.
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There's two now. One is X-Boys Massage. Sometimes around 6 boys sit at the high outdoor table, mostly twinks and some not to bad looking. The other used to be called Red Massage, now Marrio or something, often just a few boys.

Reports on the facilites have been poor, massage basic and afters depends on the boy, hit or miss with more reported misses than hits. No personal experience other than chat and sitting at Dicks and watching.

You better off at Hero.

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