No tattoos and no foreskin. Yum!

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new places:
Crystal, advertises on TMMsociety: in Ekamai, soi 7, so I assume same house that has had various such m2m shops before-all dies pretty soon. Soi is dead end and not too long: go in, its on left hand side, I DK if there is a clear sign now (now www, but fb page)
When walking past I noted that I-Sabai in the soi toward the Phahon cinema and 39 sauna looked quite promising, also with a short talk to the lads (only) sitting outside.
Then there is the assumed reborn Bodyclub, teamed up with a lady-otherhalf (which gives hopes for better cleanliness), but an enterprising spy reported he could not find it. Now there is soi 97 and 97/1 just beside bang Chak BTS (just 1 stop beyond Onnut-so plenty of more massage closeby), but there is no house nr or further detail posted.
Closures:
On anohter fora this morning it was told that FANclub had folded up, citing ever increasing police pressure as reason.

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Intermezzo from Philippine/Manila
Just as some comparison: Manila, or more precise Quezon city, which is just part of greater MNL, also has dozens of m2m shops, more or less comparable t those here in BKK. I choose HiLOm, not that the reviews were overly good, but as the adress was the most clear.
Turned out to be in a kind of small gay area with also restrt, and late nite disco.
As such the process is about the same as here: you choose some type of msg, pay this (here always before!) to shop and the boy takes care of you. There are however nasty differences in the details:
-as about anything in PH, its much more basic and worn as in TH, if you believe this is even possible
-''rooms'' were not closed of, just curtained, same as in MY, and in some shops here in tourist zone that pretend to be just normal
-in this shop you choose your boy/man from a large tank, where quite a lot sat waiting and smiling, all wearing company stark white Tshirt and shorts.
-command of english(or rather American) in PH is certanly miles better as here, but do not assume that they all speka it or fluently
-quite nasty I found you always have to deal at the spot about price and what you get for it. Now most prices in PH in PHP are roughly the same as in TH for THB (though you get more PHP for 1 eur as THB), but not for this. My start with just Thai prices was honed away. We settled at 1500 PHP.
-massage as such was OK, not very good, not bad, mostly same as one gets for oil msg around here, but hardly any sensual strokes. But of course that was just 1 guy -the next part is always labelled ''extra service'' and as such also heavily debated in PH fora. What I got was a combined hand+body workover, with alas many poh-movie like groans (which I despise), ending in a handjob. Not bad, but to Thai ways overpriced. The shower there was so bad that apparently most did not took it (under the staircase), but I got afters a sensual wipe/clean allover with a new special towel, which was quite refreshing.
Visit to PH is OK if you can avoid the hurricane areas and are used/can adapt to more basic things as here in TH (compare to non-touristy parts of Indonesia), many very available guys and also much more poverty. Food is def. much worse: mostly fast food. Best choice for me would been to have stayed longer in a provincial uni-town like Baguio and make more local contacts.

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SAPAN KWAI places
So I decide to check out a place that hs opened about 1 year ago as Waterloo, in a former KaraOK shop in the gay soi. This was one of the more strange visits I have met till now, as it seemed more like they either did not want non Thai or there was something else going on. They would not quote a price, there would be just 2 boys present, 1 of which looked mostly Indian and I left without purchase.
Remembering there was nr 9 across the road, where I have been when it had another name, I decided to hop over. That nr 9 also has an upmarket shop in Sukhumvit 31, but this palce was def. more downmarket., Its a wing of the Liberty Hotel, I guess the former low-budget rooms. Much as it was, but all cleaned up and newly repainted.
It has a format q bit different from most shops, that may make it ineresting for some of you (assuming there are still people reading this).
Nearly all boys are pretty small, slim and young, but they seem to vary often. They also have gaggle of boys staying there. They are shown to you as face pix on a pad, without any further data and you only see them while you are in the room, undressing. Prices are low: 1 hr oil is just 400, no tips stated. But its also pretty basic: water is lukewarm at best, though all rooms have showers and there are many (1st floor-steep stairs), you get just 1 towel and there is not even tissue. AC is blowing cold or off. When its in the sun for long time, rooms can get very stuffy. Also they are quite precautious/wary for stray farang. But then Sapan Kwai (visited there pretty often in Midnite Cowboy days) is now brimming with farang-when then there were just 2-3.
Anyway, I choose, on rec as very good, a boy named 2, who later told me: 17, ohno, 18 and from Lamphun, his looks were undetermined for age. Normal smallboy, not well trained or specific looking. he too was cautious, but when after some 10 mins it was all clear what I expected, he excused, then came back with equipment and then stripped off complete.
His technique was quite different from what I have met till now,and he did have technique (which was my biggest fear-untrained and just after own pleasure): he made very long strokes, all the way from feet till neck, up as good and even pretty strong msg, then down very sensual and just touching your other parts and that over and over again. It all ended with a hand+blowjob, also very sensual, he just hit the right spots and feelings on me. he was hard, but that tool was pretty small.
At the end (they offer you a 1 bt plastic watercup) after tip, he gave me a lefthandshake with finger touch.....
At a later visit he was just taken and waved at me, so I had to choose another. F looked much less neat and unkempt-hair grown, a bit unkempt, as on foto and not at all bigger as was promised. he too had about the same type of technique, but not all along body, just upper part first, when he sat riding on me. He came from Tak and also due to his adress in BKK, so I feared yet another untrained tribal, but was Thai. We had quite an interesting talk, which soon came to gay places When I laughed at him and told him that with 19 he cold not enter soi 2,as they do IDchecks, he started to ask much more and why, apparently aiming at a further career somewhere there. Also for him Sunee might be more appropriate.

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Pong, thanks for those detailed reports. Very much appreciated. This last place you mentioned in Saphan Kwai (ah, memories of the great Midnight Cowboy!) is that actually in the main Liberty Hotel building? If so, is it the only massage place there?

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I was looking at the Thai Massage Boy dot com website last month and found a few very attractive guys on there. I sent messages to several places but only received a reply from one: Leo Spa on Rama 6. They were very prompt and booked a guy for me for the following week. They also e-mailed me directions with atttached photos too. I was impressed.

I got there late one afternoon (they close at 9 pm) and waited for my guy to show up. A few minutes later some guy walked in the room ... but it wasn't the one I had booked! I talked to the manager and got that straightened out, but had to wait another 20 minutes until the one I wanted showed up.

His name was Tae and was bigger than I would have guessed from his photo. Not much of a talker (and I can speak Thai) but then again, I wasn't there for conversation. Good massage and once I got his towel off, quite well endowed. I was under the impression that he was "versatile" but he could only top, so we went with that. Overall, it was good, but I wasn't so impressed that I'd go running back. Very clean place, though, and not difficult to find, right across the street from a hospital.

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Now closed by police order (according to a post on T M M Board)

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It was open last week, the Manager showed me some guys on the tablet but I had already decided to take one of the three twinks who were on duty. The room was Basic but clean. Oil massage 600 B for 1,5 h. the Masseur was 19yo from Chiangrai,slim, small , friendly. Unfortunately Zero English. He did a good Job and seemed to know what he did ( as far as i can judge it). He stripped to a small slip which came down later, so for about 1hr he did his job in the nude. The HE (HJ) was nothing y would write home about but all in all a nice experience. When leaving the room I saw a twink wearing just a tiny slip and his customer entering another room. He was one of the guys I d seen on a tablet before, so there must be a room where all the boys are waiting for customers. Expected min.tip...500B

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Very good news, thank you. Opening confirmed by the above-mentionned website, it seems it was only a one or two weeks closure.

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