strange, that this mentioning gets such a response.
From Silom (and remember, there are people, like me, who do not even come there often!) take bus 76, orange AC, daytime maybe 30 mins=1/3 off the quoted time.
Now that BTS runs to WWyai-take bus 105, which runs all of RamII untill Mahachai. Doubt if that would save much time.
The day I went was weekend and it was busier. But on normal weekdays, most of the other sauna's i did last year (just 4 or 5) were just as quiet. 20 people in is aready a big crowd, in general.

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Went to Heaven Sauna on Saturday afternoon/evening. Wow was it busy. An amazing mix of farangs (at least a dozen), Turks(?farang... thought he was from UK), Chinese, and of course locals.

A beautiful evening on the roof top garden. Some nice talks with a couple of different guys although precious little u know what for me.

Mai pen rai... All part of the embroidery...

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someone before mentioned the parading and doing nothing in sauna's from some smart/hansum thai guys. This was indeed confirmed to me by such a guy (or attempting to-those are in general not really my choice). Said he visited a few times/year, mainly in a group of friends, and that was just what they would do: play a little in the gym, do some exercise, view a movie or VDO, and look at whom got interested. Like they would gain brownie-points for the nr. of stares they would receive. Ingeneral I found that in my visits it was more mid-age thai men coming into sauna's for what we are also going for.

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In addition to parading, I think they also like to see if an older farang touches them in any way--they get a mental high out of being insulted, violated, almost raped! by that disgusting farang! But it's funny because Thai can touch Thai (I've seen this a lot) and they don't have any negative reaction.

Last trip, I talked with a Lao guy (he just wasted a lot of my time and was never was interested in sleeping over in the first place) who told me that his visit to Babylon the day before totally disgusted him--old farangs touching him--soooooo disgusting!

I think the parading only happens when a place gets a certain number of people. But eventually a lot of the guys end up going in with other guys--it just takes forever (non-stop parading). Maybe they first need to get turned on by seeing how many people look at them.

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Has anyone been to the various events held at Torpedo and Cruising Saunas. These include fucking zone, orgy zone, communal j/o zone just to name a few. I have heard from a number of Thais that these events are very wild and full on.
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Torpedo and Cruising are related or owned by the same people. I heard that the events at Cruising have a big turnout--but I never knew what kind of events. Someone told me that the guys who go to Cruising are "real men" who are not inhibited. I have been to Cruising two times (I've posted directions)--but never during one of these events. The first time, I think I just had a little success playing around with a few guys (nothing memorable), but the second time, I had great sex with a guy maybe age 32, with a masculine hot muscular body who said he worked for the Air Force in Don Muang! He kept saying he loved me! But other than that, it was parading, rejection, snotty attitude, etc.

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Cruising Sauna is open until 5 a.m. Fri. & Sat. nights (opens at 4 p.m. every day)--otherwise open until 2 a.m. On a soi opposite Major Cineplex Ratchayothin--see detailed instructions I posted earlier.

From a card: Cruisingsauna.com, 02-930-3538-9

Torpedo spa--089-029-3667

Torpedo sauna and spa--Ramhkamhang 24--02-7187376

I went to cruisingsauna.com, and there is a twitter link that gives activities listings:

http://twitter.com/cruisingsauna

Also, when you go to cruisingsauna.com, go to bottom left to click on either cruisingsauna or torpedo--and that takes you into their more detailed web sites.

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Their "promotional flyers" (in Thai) are extremely explicit. They seem to have the "fucking zone" alternate at each sauna every fortnight. Same with the "orgy zone" and the "jerk off" events.

My understanding is that the rules are as follows:

fucking zone - the zone opens for a couple of hours on the designated night. You can only enter if you have a partner or if you hook-up quickly in the zone. People standing around are ushered out. Not for the faint of heart. Couples fucking openly all over the zone. The lights are on. People who ejaculate in the open (whether the fucker or the fuckee) each get a 5 day free pass.

orgy zone - no need to have a partner to enter. Can watch if you like. Again, very wild. Lights on, fucking, sucking, you name it all out in the open for all to see. Ejaculating in the zone gets you a free pass.

jerk off zone - there are usually a few couples fucking in the middle of the room and others are standing around in a circle jerking off. People who ejaculate get free passes. Those who volunteer to receive cum - like bukkake, get extra free passes. Again, lights on.

There are also other events. Every Tuesday at cruising they have a "man in the box" event. Kind of like glory holes but in a clear plastic material. Guys with big cocks (some volunteer, others employed) stick their cocks through the holes for the general crowd to suck to orgasm. Heaps of guys standing around watching.

These venues are not for the faint of heart - from all accounts. No doubt the wildest and most uninhibited guys go there.

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I have experienced the fucking zone at Torpedo.

As one of the few people there over thirty, I wasn't exactly the belle of the ball.

These things are largely for the young'uns, so don't get your hopes up too high if you're not one.

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If you weren't partnered I assume they ushered you out of the zone. Is that right? My understanding is that for the fucking zone you can't just stand around and watch.

I think I will start with the orgy zone and see how I do. If I get a favorable response, then perhaps I may venture to the fucking zone.

I shall report back in due course.

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I found one guy who wanted to go into the zone with me, but as soon as we got in there he split off and joined another couple -- leaving me alone.

He had just used me to get inside.

I got to enjoy about 30 seconds of the (very hot) scene before being dragged out (kicking and screaming).

Not a gratifying experience.

If you go, I'd suggest taking someone with you rather than counting on hooking up with someone there (unless you are a young Adonis).

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That is why I plan to go on the orgy night or the group j/o night rather than the fucking zone night. I would be similarly horrified. I heard that in these zones the lights are completely on with no dimming at all. Is that true? That would be rather harsh!

I don't think you'd need to be a young Adonis (although it wouldn't hurt) but just have someone to go with into the zone who wouldn't abandon you.

Can you tell us more about your experience there? Were you naked the whole time, as I have read is the requirement?

Did you go to other parts of the building? How may floors? What is the roof like? Were there things going on outside the fucking zone on the night you went?

And in the fucking zone itself - is it as wild as they all make it out to be?

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The "fucking zone" is just a small room on the top floor -- maybe 10' x 15' -- with a raised table in it.

Normally, it's the video room.

Yes, you have to be naked to go in and yes the lights are on bright.

The room can only fit about fifteen people -- and yes there were that many people in it and they were indeed fucking.

If you stop fucking, you're immediately kicked out -- even if you're with a partner. They have a kind of referee in there keeping watch like a hawk (at least he was naked).

It wasn't all that exciting, to tell you the truth.

The rest of the place is just a normal sauna (karaoke room, gym, sauna/steam, private rooms, mosquito-ridden roof garden.

Sometimes it's all naked, sometimes naked in some zones only, sometimes not.

Nothing special.

Oh -- and they also have an attached massage facility with about a half dozen masseurs on call.

And (ironically) some kind of evangelical church next door.

I have been there three times now and not seen another farang. The crowd is mostly in their twenties and looking for the same.

I'm usually pretty conscious of avoiding places that are not geared to people in my age bracket, so I probably won't go back.

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Even though you say you avoid places not geared to your age group you say you've been there three times. There must be something about it that keeps you coming back. What's the attraction?
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The first time was when it first opened, and I was curious to see what it was all about. I had a fuck buddy with me on that visit, so I wasn't really cruising.

The second time was several years later (recently), and I was curious to see how the place had evolved.

While there, I saw a poster on the wall advertising the "fucking zone" -- which is only once a month, by the way -- and again my curiosity was piqued.

Hence the third visit.

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