Except for Babylon, there's not much mention about saunas lately.

Can some of you guys give some feedback (good and bad) on saunas besides Babylon?

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With the swine flu as well as tuberculosis both plaguing Bangkok these days, I would say it's best to avoid saunas at the moment....but up to you!

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Us guys aint welcome at most saunas other than Babylon.Try Heaven for a slim chance in a quiet setting.

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That is not the case! I always feel welcome everywhere.

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I've visited the new V club about 4 times in their new location, every time totally disppointed with both the lne up of masseurs and the rude, arrogant and lazy service.

Last time, about three months ago, I decided to re-visit Charan since I was already in the building. Totally Polite at reception, and totally ignored by every Thai patron, but never rude, stayed about 2 hours and didn't see another farang.

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Farose Sauna Pradiphat
I went there yesterday, sunday afternoon. This one is a bit difficult to find if you are riding shanks's pony. Here are some fresh directons. If you are getting there from Silom on BTS get out at Saphan Kwai and take the south exit on the right hand side facing back from whence you came... The map tells the rest. But here it is writ.



When you get out at this exit and go down the stairs turn around and walk towards the traffic and down to the intersection about 500 m. Turn right and walk along Tn Pradiphat until you come to Pradiphat Soi 19 (RHS) clearly marked. Walk down Soi 19 for 389 paces (about 249 metres LOL) and TR into a short soi and walk about 30 m and turn left. Farose is the third building/dwelling on the left 128/3. The entrance is a large imposing block structure brown render colour which makes it look like a garment factory. Admission - when I went it was 100 baht may be 120 later.

Striped hand towels of the type mother used to give father for cleaning the car when she had finished using them for everything else are available. If your waste is more then 29.5 inches then drape them over your shoulder. Bring some undies, boxers or swimmers. Most guys had on swimmers or boxers, also the std cap.

Inside is a bit like a building site. Bits of crap everywhere. Uneven floors, broken tiles particularly in the steam room (which is great) with some angular bits missing. Thought it was a bit of fancy terazzo... Ha Ha. So take care. Scant towels mean water on ‘polished’ wood floors and stairs… Many many stairs.

A rabbit warren of areas and many levels. There are round biscuit type, large and hard poofs (your oxymoron for the day) in every little cabin which are impossible to get comfortable on but then who wants to sleep.

There is a bar, karoke, stage show all being done with fun. The surrounds are dingy but this sort of adds to the atmosphere. They are fixing the outdoor top floor doing some planking and concreting so this may account for some of the mess.

For my part I was mostly ignored sort of politely but did have 2 encounters of the best kind. The second was suitably rough and hung like in the proverbs. There is always something for you in practically any scene, you just gotta be patient… Alas not my strongest suit.

Now remember I was only there for a couple of hours so it may not be fair to judge so bear this in mind when reading below.

Overall an average experience but I will give it a second look over when the memory fades. By the way as a regular at GSM until the fire I can tell you it is not a patch on GSM. GSM had some folk who cared about the place. This is not really evident here yet but may be this is developing.

Anyway please read with the above caveat.

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I meant "not welcome" in the sense that farangs are not in demand at saunas other than Babylon.As a consumer guide this would be correct for Suana Mania,U39,Farose et al.In previous threads the moderator has also indicated that our chances of scoring at Thai youth oriented saunas are in the "don't bother' category.Hospitality-wise you would be welcome depending on the mood of the staff-member.

Do you recommend I try again?As venues they were great but I felt that even a handsome air-steward would be hard pressed.This has been the case since the Obelisk.I think the term is adhesive or something like that.

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-- Thanks for these clear directions to what some people would call: 'PHAROSE ONE.'.
- For Google Earthlings it's co-ords. appear to be -
100-32-46.E.x13-47-35.N., (roughly.),.
- Sounds to be quite inviting still - but in its own way.
-- Jogging my amnesic memory I remember that I went thither many, many years ago; it doesn't appear to have changed all that much. Possibly - even then - being some Tired & Olde Farang I was ignored completely all the time, but the natives were enjoying themselves, especially in the 'naked.' spaces upstairs - I was mortified! ;-)

-- PHAROSE 2. is its younger partner -
- addr.: Ramkahaeng 21., (on Tnn. R'haeng. between BIG C. & MJR. CINEPLEX.),
sub-soi nuandi 2.,
Khet Wangthonglang, BKK.;
tel.: (02)-319 4054..
-- Again memory suggests that P2. has been discussed quite some time back in CFS.?

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-- Y'day., (05th.), I was chatting with a mature & American professor, (med. ht. & no special & distinguishing features that are apparent immediately.), who likes both cinemas and saunas.

-- He does not like BABYLON SAUNA - apart from its gym.;
- He alleges that he's successful in both SAUNA MANIA. - off Soi Convent; BTS. Sala Daeng. - and in 39 U'GD. SAUNA. - BTS. SAPHAN KWAI.
- In those two places he attributes his successes to -
1.- He speaks Thai;
2.- He observes closely the behaviour of other patrons and is prepared to take his time, even over several visits;
3.- He is neither assertive nor pushy;
4.- He has other attributes, but what those are modestly he did not say. Just between us girls - while he may well have have been an Adonis with a gym. buffed body in his youth sadly few, if any traces, remain; so the mystery of his other attributes remains?

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Big cock or fat wallet.

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-- A visiting farang, and contributor to CFS., has been keeping me updated with his deeds & misdeeds!
- Most recently he went to THE BEACH RESORT SAUNA.:
- addr.: 316, Soi Preedi Panomyong 42.,
Sukhumvit 71.,
Khet Khlong Toei, BKK.;
- tel.02)-392 4783.;
- web: http://ww.thebeach-g-thailand.com
- adm'n.: 99.Bh.;
- hrs.: 15.-06.oo.
-- above info. from MAX Magazine..

-- He reported that several taxi-drivers did not know of, or were unwilling to go-out to, S'vit. 71.; so he took the BTS. to On Nut, (E9.), and an m/c. thence.
- Fairly successful in scoring after a while - but, to me, nothing to make one really want to trek-out that far on what might be a 'Crap shoot.', (an American term, apparently.),.
-- E&OE. as reported speech.

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It's really not difficult to get there. BTS Prakanong is the station nearest...not On Nut. At the bus stop at the north-east exit of the BTS station, take bus 71 along Prakanong Road(Which is Sukumvit soi 71) and get off at soi 42 and The Beach is up there 100 meters on a little turnoff to the right.
From Silom, bus 115 goes door to door or from Rama 4 take bus 109.
To try going by taxi is going to lead to a heck of a lot of frustration...unless you simply ask for 'Prakanong soi 42'.

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-- All too true; but my farang acquaintance, not being such a regular visitor, isn't so familiar with BKK..
- But I'm sure that he & others will note yr. dir'ns. and will profit thereby.

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It's the Prakanong skytrain stop, and then get a motorcycle guy to take you to The Beach (although motorcycle boy will be expensive at 40 baht). So it might just be worth it to just take a taxi the whole way--but you can avoid traffic by first taking the skytrain.

The Beach is off Sukhimvit 71--which goes left as you're walking south on Sukhumvit (exit the skytrain going with traffic). It's a long treck up Suk. 71. But all you need to know is it's soi 42 off on the RIGHT side going up Suk. 71. The taxi driver will have to keep slowing down to see the signs on the other side of the street. But all the motorcycle guys seem to know where Beach is.

Okay--turn right and go down soi 42 and you pass maybe two sois, and Beach is on what seems like the LAST one. You turn right and go down narrow residential soi and Beach is quickly on your left. There's a small illuminated sign.

I went there twice recently. It's open until 6 a.m. But although I had recent success there on one visit, I didn't have any success the second visit. It's only 99 baht--so maybe locals like it.

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-- 'Lucerna pedi meo verbum tuum et lux semitae meae.' - Ps CXIX 105..

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