wantasian.... you wonder why people criticize what you write?

To be honest you leave me speechless.

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Speechless is too mild ! I have better adjectives : repulsive or repugnant should be more apt ::

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Okay, I like real sex with real men. The people who don't like my comments are probably the same people who have ruined it for others by inflating the prices for what is basically unsatisfactory fake sex. This includes paying way too much for massages.

When I am in with one of these fakes who make way too much money getting picked up and doing almost nothing, I smile and am very friendly, and I end up say something like, "okay, this isn't working out, can you just leave now--I'll give you your XXX?." They know what the problem is (their fakeness) and they start offering me a massage or some other thing never agreed to. I insist, and we end the session. They probably laugh at what they made.

By the way, I was very successful at meeting guys online. I am honest and don't play gay games, and I don't do endless e-mails with fake farang charm. I met some really nice Thai students and others with good jobs who really like me.

I think the whole Bangkok cruising scene is being taken over by internet postings.

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Oh, by the way, I talked with a Chinese-looking (and basically cute) guy near Grand Palace. Like many others, he was with a friend (this usually indicates trouble--the best ones are by themselves). He couldn't speak any English. His friend translated. He started out high, and then it went down. Then, when I mentioned kissing, it quadrupled. I really think many of the street guys get picked up and do almost no substantive sex. They think they are valuable and can make a lot of money for just being a pretty ornament who gets picked up.

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There is tremendous conceit in your mails. The impression I get is that you are one of those cheapstake farangs who are always on the look out for a cheap dinner - forever whining and complaining about expenses, cheats etc etc. You say you do well with the Thai students -obviously, they are probably more gullible than the hardened guys in the bars.

I have no problems with what you do, or how successful you are in luring Thai stuents, or your inability to comprehend why some thais prefer older farangs to a deadly specimen such as you etc. When one reads your postings, one is livid; and believe me, I am not alone on this board.

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"Fakeness"?

You seem to have lost sight of the fact that OF COURSE it is fake. You are a john and they are a prostitute, and they are probably fighting the urge to throw up when you press your body against theirs or try to "kiss" them.

I think if you have repeated lack of satisfaction with prostitutes, you might want to give a try at finding a non-commercial hook-up who might actually have genuine sexual attraction to you. It might be difficult, but quality always wins out over quantity in my book.

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Hey, I'm just giving my observations.

By the way, I was talking with a farang in Bangkok last week who said that only about 1 out of 3 of the bar boys will give any kind of satisfactory sex. He said it's more worth it to just pay more in his country where he has some regulars. (In Bangkok, he goes to Babylon to meet guys, and likes it very much.)

I think more farangs should be mad if they off a guy from a bar, or pick up one elsewhere, and then spend a lot of time going to a room, and then the whole thing is a total waste of time. I totally don't care about the money--it's the fact that I've basically been misled into wasting a lot of time late at night, and I don't feel like going back and starting the whole thing over again.

Some guys really do perform, and are great. I had two really wonderful experiences this last trip (out of six such guys). It is unfair to these guys that there are a bunch of scammers out there.

I had a lot of wonderful times with guys I met online--none of whom wanted money. I'm going to meet some of these guys again on my next trip, plus some others where we just couldn't schedule to meet (they had final exams, or had to go upcountry during holiday, etc.).

I'm moving on to other subjects. Stop the bitchy viscious personal attacks--I'm just giving my observations. Farangs with money and a lot of time to waste have let the money boy situation get out of control (fakes who are kept on staff in bars, etc.). I know what I'm doing, I know how to size up guys and situations, and I hate making mistakes. I will not off a boy from a bar. And I don't do massage places. I've had really great sex from guys I met cruising other places.

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Wantasian, for you, time for rehab, and time to reconsider what the Thai bar scene is all about.

There is a gay commercial sex scene in most big cities in almost every country in the world. For example, in many European and many US cities this 'industry' is enormous.

Would you demand the same 'expectations' from commercial sex activity in all of these cities / countries?

I suspect your way out of touch with the realities of why young men enter this business, and the fact that people who run this industry, are, in general not nice people, and they have (whether you or I like it or not) no concern whatever for what you (totally unrealistically) want or expect as 'service'.

Challenge the operators in this 'industry' in many countries and risk having your face re-arranged or your legs broken; wake up to some simple and obvious facts of life of commercial sex.

Actually, I think your dangerous and I suggest you take a 'time out.'

I also hope that the people you 'encounter' don't get damaged by your total shit.

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Not everyone agrees with you. I dont

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I said I am not alone. That does not mean everyone is with me. Fine difference there !

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