Hi,

I come in Bangkok next month. My favourite bar is Tawan as I like muscle guys with great abs. I read that there were a few in Hot male but the reviews are a little bit old. Does anybody go to this place recently ?
How is it ?

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There are some big, "beefy" guys in HotMale, but not really body builder types... at least not the last time I was there a month ago.

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This is in reply to a post (permalink) on the "Pattaya Update" thread, where Scoops wrote "And keep in mind that the captain who 'negotiated' the deal will likely be expecting his commission from the proceeds."

Since the posts preceding that one referred to Tawan, it is possible that Scoops was referring to that bar too (which is why I am placing my response in this thread "Bar Reports - BKK").

Indeed, it is an open secret that bar boys have to give a cut to the mamasan each time they get an off, and some mamasans are greedy. With Tawan however, I can't see how the mamasan can be greedy, because unlike other bars, the owner is in attendance almost every night. The owner is reputed to be the type that takes care of his boys; he knows which side of the bread is buttered. I would think he therefore acts as a moderating influence on any mamasan's greed. Probably he'll adhere to custom and allow the mamasan to take a cut in return for managing the boys, but if he knows his business, he'd likely cap the quantum to a very reasonable amount.

I also think the hiring dynamics in Tawan are different from other bars. Elsewhere, much depends on the mamasan in finding and hiring boys, but in Tawan, anyone looking for a job can simply approach the owner since he is readily available. This reduces the leverage of the mamasan on the boys. In other words, no mamasan in Tawan can ever become the tyrants they are in other bars.

However, I am just speculating, but I'd be interested to know if others have more insight into this.

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Thanks,

Is it your log Shamelessmack in Thailand and around ? It is a goldmine to have review of massage places. Congratulation.

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Not sure that I would totally agree with these points:

- The owner is there every night, that's true.
- The owner has a day job which is fairly responsible, within what is a very very Thai organization where structure is paramount. (I have had 'work connection' with him before. And I'm being very careful to not disclose anything more as a respect to his job confidentiality.)
- This rubs off in the way Tawan is managed. In other words there is a 'pecking order' and the vast majority of staff would not approach the owner directly. In Thai culture / Thai working situations, the 'staff/village folk' don't directly approach the pooyai, Tawan is no different. In fact 99% of the working boys / captains / waiters know no other system.
- I would agree that this place operates basically the same as other gay bars in terms of the roles of captains / waiters etc.
- I would suggest that the captains/waiters would be receiving their 'cut' the same as in any other gay bar.
- I am aware that one or two of the captains take care of recruitment (interview the candidates who approach).

Is the owner 'mr nice guy? No comment!

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Went to this venue last Friday evening:

- Many dancing boys, big variety
- Lucky draw - Customer picks a number from cup and boy with that number gets instant prize of 1,500Baht from the bar. My guess is that this is the owners way to encourage lots of boys to work there.
- Big crown of customers.
- Lote of n*** shows.

ONE NEGATIVE:

- Paid the bill with a 1,000Baht note.
- Change came back and it was 100Baht short
- Asked the captain why change was short, he immediately fished under the flap on the change folder and pulled out 5 X 20Baht notes. They were completely hidden under the flap.

The captain has been around a long tome and has seen me many many times. He was very embarrassed and tried to apologize profusely, and said, "please don't go to internet".

Suggest customers watch your change in this place.

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-- Y'day., (03rd.), evening, and as a result of the above more or less favorable review, I climbed upstairs to X SIZE A GO-GO BAR., (Soi Twilight - off Suriwong rd.),.
- I was surprised at the amount of body traffic in the soi - quite busy and with touts etc. up to their usual games!

-- ETA.: 21.55.hrs., (5mins. before the 'touted' start of the first perf.),.
- Quite full; I was shewn to a seat about mid-way stage LEFT.
- Drinks at 250.Bh..
- About 30 R&F. boyz on stage in total, all wearing briefs; mostly on the younger & slimmer side - a couple who look as though they're going through sex-changes; a few who are slightly MORE muscled but not up to TAWAN BAR stds..
- Hse. lts. dimmed at 22.07.hrs..
- Fairly usual sel'n. of acts: costumed & dancing boyz; nude dances; shower-scene with #3. & #5. - both well endowed!; Simul'd. sex scene; candle show etc. etc..
- Ante-penultimate act was bold show with 1 Top & 1 Bottom - nothing really memorable, I've seen better.
- Penultimate act was Big Cock Show with a dozen boyz all wearing Condoms, many of whom - after shewing on stage - walked amongst us voyeurs seeking further approbation! The usual LO-FI. PA. system and MC's. garbled command of English made it difficult for me to hear the participants' names & nos..
- Final act was that little & olde lady, whom one used to see in TAWAN BAR, with her classical Thai dance routines. She obtained MORE applause than the rest of the previous acts put together.
- Hse. lts. ON again just before 24.hrs..
- Towards the end all seats were occupied and it became standing room only.
- Both staff & some spectators were smoking ciggies. - ugh.

-- PS. - I see that X-SIZE has an advertorial in the current issue of the fold-out & pocket-sized GAY GUIDE BKK. - IX. #106..
- I see that the Guide is under the same gen'l. mngmnt. as the freebie mag. Variety.
- further info: cell. (081)-821 5250..
-- Usual disclaimer. --

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I am back in Bangkok and checking out the bars and boys. What a disappointment. Maybe I am jaded. Last Saturday night the bars were jammed packed, especially X-boys. But talent missing. It was late so maybe the best boys already offed. After checking out three cigarette hazed bars: X-boys (awful), Future Boys (a bit better), and one upstairs on the other side of the soi (Hotmale?) - also pretty average save for a very energetic sex show featuring two couples aerobatic f..king with one short top who was very good looking, big c..k, convincing, but a bit crazy (maybe drunk), persuaded by my Thai BF to go to Classic Boys. It was about 11:30 and club almost empty but talent excellent. A previous boy I had, #25, was there and immediately engaged with me. Needless to say we took him back to our hotel along with #8 (who turned out to be a virgin). I f..ked #25 - he has a nice body - a bit on the ladyboy side but biggish c..k - rather like a medium sized banana - and he takes it up the proverbial like a trouper.

A couple of weeks ago on a quick visit to Bangkok, went to Jupiters(?) which of course is full of muscled and macho tops except one young thing who turned out to be totally inexperienced in bed. Also, show was appalling. A lot of strutting and teasing. Who dreams up these idiotic routines? The bars should stick to f..king shows and the lip synched singing preferably by people who know English.

Going to Pattaya at end of this week to review bars there.

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